Issues with protien and natural bodybuilding

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I seemed to have stumbled ass backwards onto the possible cause of my issue.

I noticed a few weeks ago an amonia smell in my sweat as I worked out. I didn't think too much of it. As time passed it got worse. Almost overpowering. To the point I would say I was "sweating pure ammonia". The kidneys can't deal with the amount of waste and you sweat it out.

I went to my doctor with my concerns. After a blood and urine test my doctor informed me I have lowered kidney function. I was told to lower my protien and stop taking creatine. Odd because my creatine levels were normal, I did what the doctor asked. I was told I will have another test a month from my first.

Slowly my sweat seems to have stopped or only faintly of amonia. I am not taking creatine, powdered protein or large amounts of protein. I cut out BCAAs.

Today I may have stumbled upon the answer to my dilemma.

"Gluconeogenesis (GNG) is a metabolic pathway that results in the generation of glucose from certain non-carbohydrate carbon substrates"

In my admittedly basic understanding a "natural"
Is limited to the protein they can actually use. Not only that but a person who is not on performance assistance does not even benefit from a steady stream of protien. It seems that having protein at some feedings and none at others actually optimizes things for a natty.

That brings me to my issue. Eating large amounts of protein in a steady stream may have triggered my body to go into gluconeogenesis. Basically as CJ and I were guessing my body may have been using protein for energy.

When glu..... happens weight loss and muscle building can slow down. Part of that function happens in the kidneys. A possible explanation for my lowered function.

I am by no means an expert by any stretch of the imagination when it comes to diet. If these things I have read are true this is extremely interesting to me. My experience seems to mirror the claims.

This may be interesting for the natty guys or even people off cycle.

I am particularly interested eating my protien in chunks at some meals throughout the day and none or little at others to take advantage. Perhaps eating my protien this way I can raise my protien closer to the 1 to 1 ratio and actually be able to use it without triggering the ammonia sweats again.

After a positive follow up blood test of course.
 
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Sounds logical to me... also sounds like you’re ready for that first cycle!
 

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No Dr. here and would defer to Zilla on this one. That said, here's my opinion; excess protein would be converted to fat if your glycogen levels were normal and Gluconeogenesis would only take place in the absence of available carbs and fats.
 

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The ammonia smell comes from 2 possible pathways:
- the degradation of ATP (>ADP>AMP + ammonia), which happens during high intensity sessions. This is a sign of muscle glycogen depletion.
- the metabolism of protein, which happens during low intensity sessions. This is a sign of general glycogen depletion and is fairly common on keto diets.

"Is this an issue outside of smelling bad?" No. "Well OK but what can I do to stop smelling bad?" Get some deodorant and bump up the carbs.
 

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creatine has always seem to make me sick and dizzy during my work out's, and afterwards i have to go straight home a lie down for a bit, i always took it as an intense work out, but soon realised it was the creatine that what was doing that to me, so im done taking it, i know some guys swear by it, but again im done, all bodys are differant. lol
 

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