Cycle for endurance event?

[Gadawg]

Think Spongy has some experience here. I do a lot of cardio but have never done any kind of endurance event. I was really looking for something to challenge myself so I signed up for a half marathon trail run in mid february. I plan to up my test to 400mg to try to limit muscle loss due to the intensity of training and increase RBC but am wondering about anavar. Is it worth taking anavar for about a month leading up to it or will the pumps make that a bad idea? Thanks for any insight

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Equipoise...

 

[NbleSavage]

Equipoise...

^^ THIS ^^

EQ or Bold Cyp.

 

[Gadawg]

Equipoise...

Yeah, Im not really looking to experiment with any new compounds and not really looking to gain any massive competitive edge. Just want to limit strength and muscle loss mostly.

 

[SFGiants]

Winni is what all the Olympians get busted for!

Winni and test

 

[Seeker]

As sfg suggested. Winstrol is what you'll find all track and field athletes using

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Winni is what all the Olympians get busted for!

Winni and test

As sfg suggested. Winstrol is what you'll find all track and field athletes using

Agree. But he said endurance event. Not sprinting or strength like Olympic track and field events - where they all pop for winny. Winny is also out of your system quicker if you're trying to cheat...

Winny makes you faster and stronger...no doubt about it. I used to love it when I was playing football back in the day.

Endurance athletes use EPO. I wouldn't get that hardcore for recreational shit. EQ will give a nice boost imo.

 

[snake]

EQ is well know for this but it didn't do shit for me. I don't think Var will help you much at all to make a difference.

Good luck with this race but I personally think you need your head examined.

 

[Uncle manny]

EQ like stated above. And it’s too mild to even call it experimenting with. Just donate some blood and that’s all you have to worry about. The 400mgs of test alone should be enough to preserve strength and muscle.

 

[Seeker]

Agree. But he said endurance event. Not sprinting or strength like Olympic track and field events - where they all pop for winny. Winny is also out of your system quicker if you're trying to cheat...

Winny makes you faster and stronger...no doubt about it. I used to love it when I was playing football back in the day.

Endurance athletes use EPO. I wouldn't get that hardcore for recreational shit. EQ will give a nice boost imo.

not disagreeing that EQ will give him a boost but he's going to need to start pinning the compound well in advance to have its full affect come go time. With Winstrol, all he needs is to run 50 mgs ed two weeks prior to event and he'll be ready. For a Half marathon, he'll get an edge that's he's wanting.

 

[Gadawg]

EQ is well know for this but it didn't do shit for me. I don't think Var will help you much at all to make a difference.

Good luck with this race but I personally think you need your head examined.

love a good challenge!

 

[tinymk]

I trained an endurance cyclist in preparation for a big event and their drug of choice was Bold Cyp. I was amazed at the amount of time that was shaved of their previous best and that included a wreck.

 

[Gadawg]

Im not really looking for much of an edge. Its more personal challenge. I weigh 225. Im not gonna win. Lol

 

[bvs]

Boldonone, EPO, carderine, tbol. I wouldn't use winstrol personally because running a marathon with the dry joints winny gives you would suck

 

[snake]

Im not really looking for much of an edge. Its more personal challenge. I weigh 225. Im not gonna win. Lol

Truthfully, the best thing you can do is push yourself. This is the same advice we would give a guy who is asking how to bench 300 lbs.

Another big thing is to drop any excess fat you have, part of which will come with the long distance training. 6 years ago I got stupid and did a 10k in a little over 50 min. while still training heavy. Shedding just 5 lbs of fat cut more time off my mile average then any drug could do in my opinion. You have to consider your limiting factor. For me, and for most muscular guy it was the O2 uptake to feed my muscles.

Dude, so much respect for you trying this. I couldn't picture doing what I did and turning right around an repeating it. I actually thought I was going to have a heart attack at the 7K mark.

No you may not win but I you'll laugh when the guy that does say, "Dude what da fuuk you bench?" lol

 

[Gadawg]

Truthfully, the best thing you can do is push yourself. This is the same advice we would give a guy who is asking how to bench 300 lbs.

Another big thing is to drop any excess fat you have, part of which will come with the long distance training. 6 years ago I got stupid and did a 10k in a little over 50 min. while still training heavy. Shedding just 5 lbs of fat cut more time off my mile average then any drug could do in my opinion. You have to consider your limiting factor. For me, and for most muscular guy it was the O2 uptake to feed my muscles.

Dude, so much respect for you trying this. I couldn't picture doing what I did and turning right around an repeating it. I actually thought I was going to have a heart attack at the 7K mark.

No you may not win but I you'll laugh when the guy that does say, "Dude what da fuuk you bench?" lol

lol. Yeah, I think Ill drop down to 215 or so after the worst of the training but I think it’ll be pretty awesome to be a stronger than avg guy who is crazy endurance strong too. I ran 3 road miles on monday at a 7:35 avg pace and at 5 miles Im getting 8:35 so far. I think thats pretty good for now and am very excited to see where it goes. Preciate you as always Snake. Not sleeping much these days. My son just hit 4 months and nights have been rough

 

[Redemption79]

Good for you; I say do it man. I ran one half marathon, and knew I'd never do it again. I was super proud because cardio never came easy to me, but once was enough. 5k's aren't so bad...13 miles is rough on joints though if you carry a decent body mass.

I think most anabolics are going to do more harm than good when it comes to your performance. EPO is obviously widely used in this regard, but according to most literature, even super physiological levels of testosterone are more likley to hinder your performance in long-distance cardiovascular events (I don't think I've ever met anyone who says this is profoundly so, but I think at best, it's still not an improvement). I've never taken T-bol, but I've heard of enough people getting back or calf pumps that I would hesitate to use it or anything with similar effects for an endurance event.

A couple suggestions:

1) If you donate blood, for health reasons or otherwise, do it at least 4 weeks out. Any amount inside 3 weeks has a significant effect on cardio.

2) Peaking makes a big difference. Train hard, then back off 4-5 days before the event for maximum recovery. Any longer and you will lose endurance. I'm in the same boat as you; I realize neither of us would win a race like this...still, the better shape you come in, the easier and more gratifying it makes the whole experience.

 

[Redemption79]

A couple extra thoughts...
Cordyceps mushroom has been shown to increase VO2 max, IIRC I think Leucine supplementation has a notable anti-catabolic effect in endurance exercise.
Just in case you too have the idea to try Viagra or Cialis pre-workout, it didn't make a difference for me.
Weight loss definitely pays back more than anything.

 

[Gadawg]

Good for you; I say do it man. I ran one half marathon, and knew I'd never do it again. I was super proud because cardio never came easy to me, but once was enough. 5k's aren't so bad...13 miles is rough on joints though if you carry a decent body mass.

I think most anabolics are going to do more harm than good when it comes to your performance. EPO is obviously widely used in this regard, but according to most literature, even super physiological levels of testosterone are more likley to hinder your performance in long-distance cardiovascular events (I don't think I've ever met anyone who says this is profoundly so, but I think at best, it's still not an improvement). I've never taken T-bol, but I've heard of enough people getting back or calf pumps that I would hesitate to use it or anything with similar effects for an endurance event.

A couple suggestions:

1) If you donate blood, for health reasons or otherwise, do it at least 4 weeks out. Any amount inside 3 weeks has a significant effect on cardio.

2) Peaking makes a big difference. Train hard, then back off 4-5 days before the event for maximum recovery. Any longer and you will lose endurance. I'm in the same boat as you; I realize neither of us would win a race like this...still, the better shape you come in, the easier and more gratifying it makes the whole experience.

I know all the cyclists are on test but I dont know how much. Long distance cardio is brutal on natural production though so it may just be trt doses

 

[Gadawg]

A couple extra thoughts...
Cordyceps mushroom has been shown to increase VO2 max, IIRC I think Leucine supplementation has a notable anti-catabolic effect in endurance exercise.
Just in case you too have the idea to try Viagra or Cialis pre-workout, it didn't make a difference for me.
Weight loss definitely pays back more than anything.

Yeah Ive heard rogan and paul stammets talk about the mushroom stuff. Very interesting