PCT for 10 weeks Test Only Cycle

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I finished a short 10 week test only cycle 2 weeks ago (500 mg Test E / week). Starting PCT now, not on HRT.

I have on hand Tamoxifen, Clomid, Arimidex, just wanted to get some feedback on dosing schedule and what to take.

Current plan is Tamoxifen 40mg / day for 2 weeks, then 20 mg / day for 2 weeks.

Is clomid really necessary here? Have read some scary stuff about side effects, and I was thinking about leaving it off because this was just a short test only cycle.

Was also thinking about taking some Arimidex in place of clomid. Opinions?
 

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yes clomid works even better then the nolva if stand alone but together they work the best.50mg clomid 4 weeks along side the tomox..I would stay on a low dose of adex through the pct
 
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Do you take them all at once a day or do you split morning / evening,... does it matter?
 

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i like to wait 3 weeks to start the pct..I think 2 weeks out of the last shot u still may have some hormone left which makes pct ineffective
 

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you will recover naturally without pct from 10 weeks testosterone only cycle*, but if you insist on pct - start it 5th week from last shot because until then you will have supraphysiological level of testosterone circulating in the body

*if its your first cycle or you have been natural (and fully recovered) for long time (3+ months)
 

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you will recover naturally without pct from 10 weeks testosterone only cycle*, but if you insist on pct - start it 5th week from last shot because until then you will have supraphysiological level of testosterone circulating in the body

*if its your first cycle or you have been natural (and fully recovered) for long time (3+ months)
5th week works with the deca ester not cyp or E..As a new user pct will work well specially on short cycles like 10 weeks..
 

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enanthate's half life is 8-10days so do the math when will the user's testosterone levels be low if he was on 500mg... 1 half life 250mg, 2 half lifes 125mg, 3 half lifes 60mg... so wait at least until 4th half life (about a month from last shot) to start the pct
 

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Go for it nothing wrong there .. I rather extend the pct by a few weeks then and why I use hcg
 
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one thing i dont like on forums and internet is that pretty much the same pct protocols are circling around without taking in consideration what stuff did the person take, for how long, in which dosages, is it first cycle or 10th...
1500mg testosterone propionate 400mg trenbolone acetate 20week 10th cycle, or 500mg testosterone enanthate only 10week 1st cycle, pretty much the same pct is given.... nonsense advice.
 
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one thing i dont like on forums and internet is that pretty much the same pct protocols are circling around without taking in consideration what stuff did the person take, for how long, in which dosages, is it first cycle or 10th...
1500mg testosterone propionate 400mg trenbolone acetate 20week 10th cycle, or 500mg testosterone enanthate only 10week 1st cycle, pretty much the same pct is given.... nonsense advice.
theres lots of pct protocols out there..In my experience pct really only works after a few bs cycles once u start doing the heavier longer cycles with 19nors ..Pcts are pretty much useless.ALso hcg is needed for a true pct
 

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one thing i dont like on forums and internet is that pretty much the same pct protocols are circling around without taking in consideration what stuff did the person take, for how long, in which dosages, is it first cycle or 10th...
1500mg testosterone propionate 400mg trenbolone acetate 20week 10th cycle, or 500mg testosterone enanthate only 10week 1st cycle, pretty much the same pct is given.... nonsense advice.
whats your protocol for a long heavy cycle?
 
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theres lots of pct protocols out there..In my experience pct really only works after a few bs cycles once u start doing the heavier longer cycles with 19nors ..Pcts are pretty much useless.ALso hcg is needed for a true pct

I do have some hcg, how would you recommend using it for pct?
 
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enanthate's half life is 8-10days so do the math when will the user's testosterone levels be low if he was on 500mg... 1 half life 250mg, 2 half lifes 125mg, 3 half lifes 60mg... so wait at least until 4th half life (about a month from last shot) to start the pct

Are you sure that's how if works? I thought an 8-10 day half life drug would be out of your system in 16-20 days.
 
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So my understanding of pct with chlomid/Nolva is that you're just blocking estrogen, so why would it be a big deal if you start early or not?
 

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always before the nolva and clomid..ill blast hcg 500iu a day during the down time your waiting for the hormone to leave ..2 days after your last hcg shot start clo and nolva
 

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So my understanding of pct with chlomid/Nolva is that you're just blocking estrogen, so why would it be a big deal if you start early or not?
your not blocking estrogen with clo/nolv u need some estrogen in there thats where the low dose adex comes in
 
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Holy shit my Test levels just came back and it is 759. I guess that worked lol.

Also should mention that I stopped the nolva/chlomid last week because I was kinda emotional.
 

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Holy shit my Test levels just came back and it is 759. I guess that worked lol.

Also should mention that I stopped the nolva/chlomid last week because I was kinda emotional.
Were you taking those meds when you got bloods pulled? If not, how long after stopping did you get bloods pulled?
 

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