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    need to lower my test level for 1 day

    i have to see my doc and she wants me to get my testosterone checked. i of course don't want it to be too high were she would reduce my script. i only get 200 mg every 2 weeks and the blood test is on day 14. anyway anybody ever have to do this?

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    ya....you need to stall...come up with something. Only time will lower your t

    how much are you taking?

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    200 mg every 2 weeks, it might be i am stressing for nothing but i am just starting to feel beter

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    oh...well at that dose I wouldnt worry to much...by the way...the doctor is there to treat you. You can bargain for more test bro...200mg every 2 weeks is not much at all...if your not feeling as good as you think you should then tell the doc that...they should titrate your dosages based on how your feeling on a day to day schedule...not on a blood level schedule. test level numbers are different for everyone. Lets say you got a guy that is perfectly happy at test level of 300 but then your test level is 300 and your depressed as **** and your dick doesnt work...that means you naturally operate on a higher test level then the other guy...see where I am going with this? Its all based on how you feel...dont be scared of your doc...stand up for yourself and what you want.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Originally Posted by Cobra Strike View Post
    oh...well at that dose I wouldnt worry to much...by the way...the doctor is there to treat you. You can bargain for more test bro...200mg every 2 weeks is not much at all...if your not feeling as good as you think you should then tell the doc that...they should titrate your dosages based on how your feeling on a day to day schedule...not on a blood level schedule. test level numbers are different for everyone. Lets say you got a guy that is perfectly happy at test level of 300 but then your test level is 300 and your depressed as **** and your dick doesnt work...that means you naturally operate on a higher test level then the other guy...see where I am going with this? Its all based on how you feel...dont be scared of your doc...stand up for yourself and what you want.
    thats not the way the v.a. works. you feel good? that's not allowed all we want is to keep the pistol out of your mouth. got e.d.? well here are 2 viagra per month, you have fun now. the physicians handbook says max dose is 400 mg every 2 weeks and they won't violate that, in fact you will have problems getting the max allowable. Don't want you old vets waning to live to long, lol it blows bro.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Originally Posted by ken View Post
    thats not the way the v.a. works. you feel good? that's not allowed all we want is to keep the pistol out of your mouth. got e.d.? well here are 2 viagra per month, you have fun now. the physicians handbook says max dose is 400 mg every 2 weeks and they won't violate that, in fact you will have problems getting the max allowable. Don't want you old vets waning to live to long, lol it blows bro.
    Well thats just ****in bullshit if you ask me....can you go to a real doc?

    400 every 2 weeks is decent there

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    yes but they take care of all my problems, i have stepped outside for shoulder and bicep surgery. if i go outside they wont pay for the meds. but i might do it again, did 21 years in the air force and i just i am kind of used to taking what med care they will give and shutting up. i might just hang around here and see what i learn

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    well you have a job right? so you use the vet stuff so you dont have to pay med ins im guessing? Either way if you step outside most insurance agencies wont cover testosterone until your deductable is met....thats how blue c and blue s works

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    disabled vet. and if they thought i was stepping out and abusing drugs even if prescribed they would turn a lot of my meds off. they are very strict, they test me for drugs before giving me a script for pain, or ptsd. g.i. man i am still government issue and they know they own me. i would like to add i don't regret my service i would do it again even if i knew then what i know now. i think all vets feel that way.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    well **** that ken...**** that [-(

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Originally Posted by ken View Post
    disabled vet. and if they thought i was stepping out and abusing drugs even if prescribed they would turn a lot of my meds off. they are very strict, they test me for drugs before giving me a script for pain, or ptsd. g.i. man i am still government issue and they know they own me. i would like to add i don't regret my service i would do it again even if i knew then what i know now. i think all vets feel that way.
    God bless you ken!! much respect for all you have done and what you have had to endure all in the name of serving your country!

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Originally Posted by ken View Post
    disabled vet. and if they thought i was stepping out and abusing drugs even if prescribed they would turn a lot of my meds off. they are very strict, they test me for drugs before giving me a script for pain, or ptsd. g.i. man i am still government issue and they know they own me. i would like to add i don't regret my service i would do it again even if i knew then what i know now. i think all vets feel that way.
    god bless you ken! Thanks for your service.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    I love how you serve our country, and these are your benefits. I am sorry man. Wish you could see a REAL doctor who REALLY cares man. God knows you deserve it.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Thnx for your service Ken, I know how you feel and what you going thru as well. Let me tell you be carefull if you trying to do something that can cause your benefits to go way, I was on Androgel by the Army and has to drop it cause of sides effetcs and no one here (in Afghanistan) want it to do blood work cause they really don`t care about this stuff. I wish the best man.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    I'm writing a post this weekend on how to manipulate your T levels. Yes, there are ways.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Ken, when you show up for you appointment and she asked if you are "fasted" tell her you forgot and more than likely she will reschedule you. This will give you time. IMO, at the dose you are taking it won't take long to get back in normal range (there is a chance you are in normal range depending what day you pin). If she draws blood anyway. After she draws the blood tell her you pinned the night before and ask her if that will make a diffrance....it would.

    If your test comes back high, remind her she took blood while you were unfasted and had pinned 18-30 hours earlier and ask her if this could effect your test levels. This should buy you some time...with the VA a couple of weeks (or longer) and another blood test.

    Good luck brother. Thank you for your service.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Ken, sorry to hear of your dilemma but as others have said thank you for your service to your country. I truly hope a solution can be had which keeps you in the VA's good graces and gets you to feeling how you want to.

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Yo I remember talking about this on the chat board one day Pik I think told me you can crash your test with some gel ??? I am not sure what its called hit up Pikiki I believe we were the ones bsing about it
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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    Thanks for your service Ken! At 200mg E2Weeks no way you are high especially on the 14th day after pin. I would say you are as low as you started. To keep blood levels stable you need at least weekly injections after 10 days test cyp is pretty much gone and by 14 you are normally below where you were before the pin.....
    Perseverance is stronger than anything else! Never give up, you always win!

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    Re: need to lower my test level for 1 day

    waiting on it

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