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    Cycle thoughts

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    Thoughts about these cycles ? It is a bulking cycle.

    I do blast & cruise

    Cycle 1
    Test E 500mg 1-16/20
    NPP 300MG 1-6
    Deca 400mg 1-16/20
    Tren E 200mg 1-16/20
    Tren A 1-4 150mg

    Cycle 2
    Test E 500mg 1-16/20
    Deca 400mg 1-16/20
    Dboll 50mg 1-4
    Tren E 200mg 1-16/20
    Npp 300mg 1-6
    Tren A 1-4 150mg

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    They are the same except one has dbol. Right?

    I don’t think running tren with deca/npp is very beneficial. This is from personal experince.

    I would never run orals as a jump start. That’s for people with no patience. Run it mid cycle IMO.

    Drop the tren and increase either test or deca or both or neither.

    Whats your cycle history?

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    Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    They are the same except one has dbol. Right?

    I don’t think running tren with deca/npp is very beneficial. This is from personal experince.

    I would never run orals as a jump start. That’s for people with no patience. Run it mid cycle IMO.

    Drop the tren and increase either test or deca or both or neither.

    Whats your cycle history?
    I would run dbol 2-6 my bad. But iam not sure about the dbol i normally dont take orals because of the toxicity.

    I readed alot that a low dose tren could make up for bloat of deca. Not sure how much iam going to bloat on deca its first time though.

    I could drop tren and dbol tho and keep it to test deca/npp.

    Cycle history test/tren 750mg 600mg max no more compounds ive tried on tho i always end up with tren in my needle i love it.

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    You have to much going on with both cycles. If you want to bulk just run Test 600mg and Deca 600mg for 14-16 weeks. Finish with 4-5 weeks of dbol. I prefer to run my orals in the middle or on the back end. It gives that final push with added strength and recovery.

    If your looking to run a nice size, strength and recomp cycle. Npp to Tren ace bridge has been very effective for me. The dosages do not need to be high and no dbol. Maybe add 3 weeks of superdrol in the middle somewhere. Definitely before the tren! The sides would be unbearable. This is a pretty advanced cycle.

    Test 1-15 @ 500 mg
    Npp 1-10 @500 mg
    SD 5-8 @ 15-20 mg
    Tren Ace 8-15 @ 400 mg

    With a good diet and training this will yield great results!
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    Originally Posted by Blasetoise View Post

    I readed alot that a low dose tren could make up for bloat of deca. Not sure how much iam going to bloat on deca its first time though.

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    i don’t think the above statement is true.

    500 test/ 500 deca with 4 weeks of dbol wk 6-10.

    16-20 week run.

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    Originally Posted by DOOM View Post
    You have to much going on with both cycles. If you want to bulk just run Test 600mg and Deca 600mg for 14-16 weeks. Finish with 4-5 weeks of dbol. I prefer to run my orals in the middle or on the back end. It gives that final push with added strength and recovery.

    If your looking to run a nice size, strength and recomp cycle. Npp to Tren ace bridge has been very effective for me. The dosages do not need to be high and no dbol. Maybe add 3 weeks of superdrol in the middle somewhere. Definitely before the tren! The sides would be unbearable. This is a pretty advanced cycle.

    Test 1-15 @ 500 mg
    Npp 1-10 @500 mg
    SD 5-8 @ 15-20 mg
    Tren Ace 8-15 @ 400 mg

    With a good diet and training this will yield great results!
    A good recomp is also a good idea to think off tbh that wil make my cut after a bit shorter.

    Why oral before the tren ? I only get nightsweats for 4weeks and crazy dreams on tren. After that i have zero sides (lucky me)

    i will deep further in to this cycle though it got my attention.

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    Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    i don’t think the above statement is true.

    500 test/ 500 deca with 4 weeks of dbol wk 6-10.

    16-20 week run.

    My .02
    So you say better leave the tren for the next cut/recomp ? And just stay to the basic bulker test/deca iam not sure about the dbol or any oral yet. Instead of that i can kick start with npp if iam sticking to the deca/test

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    So complicated!

    I'm with the other guys, keep it simple. Run Test and Deca, and if you want to, add an oral in the middle or at the end.

    That's exactly what I'm doing next.

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    Keep it as simple as possible. As others have said, test and deca. Make sure the diet, training and sleep are on point.

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    My thoughts:
    Drop tren, add mast to keep water of if you are concerned about that. Just because you get no physically noticeable sides doesn’t mean it’s not completely killing your health markers.

    Don’t use NPP either just deca is fine, if not preferable. The idea of using a short ester until a long ester “kicks in” is completely wrong.
    save orals for the end when you plateau. Makes no sense to you in beginning

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    Keep it simple..less compounds less sides
    Test..750
    Deca..400
    Dbol..50mgs..wks 4-8
    I'd needed..throw in some Sdrol..10mgs hour before WO..during the peak of the cycle,but only for a couple of weeks..sorry I love Sdrol..

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    Oke thanks guys it is going to be a simple 500/400 nandrolane bulk.

    Now i like to know what you guys preffer what just the OG deca or NPP both first time and i dont care about pinning EOD.

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