Well var goes through the liver once instead of twice like Dbol which makes var not liver toxic.
Well var goes through the liver once instead of twice like Dbol which makes var not liver toxic.
I think you are thinking of primobolan acetate tabs, which are 1-methylated. Anavar is 17-AA so it will go through the liver twice, otherwise, you'd have to dose 150mg ED to feel something. I've used the primo acetate tabs before and you need a minimum of 150mg ED to see results due to the poor bioavailability.
That being said, Var is one of the less liver toxic steroids out there. AIDs patients use high doses of anadrol and anavar ED for 9+ months straight or longer and most experience "elevated liver enzyme values." This does not mean their liver is permanently damaged, but does mean it's on the way. The main culprit in liver damage would be the combination of these orals and alcohol.
Having said that, I think we should still strive to limit the amount of orals we use and caution newcomers properly. The thing that has gotten out of hand these days IMO is the dosing of orals. This is due to a number of things, with underdosed/bunk product being the key. Most guys don't need more than 30mg of dbol or 40mg of winstrol ED to get incredible results. But, guys will dose winny to 75mg or more and complain about joint pain or dose dbol more than 50mg ED and complain about back and calf pumps. Really what we need to do is help educate each other on what dosages to stick with and what brands are actually worth a damn. I can promise you that 30mg of dbol that actually contains 30mg of the active ingredient known as dianabol will be more than enough to make you grow like a weed.
This is key. I know, I am a new guy.
Shane there's plenty of general info on the open threads here and other boards to do research on what BRANDS are good/legit and properly dosed. Just do some browsing and theres tons of info to research. Getting sources is a diff story but dong the research first and taking your time could save you tons of hassle & bodily strain by making sure you are doing it right...
I'm good on sources and brands, Andro. I was just saying for every new guy behind me.
OK... Well - That's why we're all here to make sure new people aren't doing something that could hurt them or get them scammed. One post away from your living room!
The problem with Dbol and and its bad rep for liver toxicity is due to the main users of dbol. Not to put down young people, but this compound is mainly used by your 17-22 year old crowd. And for the most part they just want to take this pill and get big and strong while while still maintaining an u healthy livestyle (alcohol, rec drugs etc.). How do i know this? I was one of them. At 17 i had a buddy at the gym that told me: here take these(anabolex) on workout days. So i did. I took them shits like flinstones religiously for the most part of 2 years. I got awesome results from it.
Would i do it again? Fuck no. I got lucky the shit didnt kill my dumb ass.
Although Anavar is an oral steroid, and has been alpha-alkylated to survive oral ingestion and the first pass through the liver.
Thanks Bro! For the most part, I am very happy with SI. It was initially presented to me as a site that was upfront and honest. None of that scammer, dishonest, dramatic bullshit. A place where you could come, meet some bros and get some honest answers about gear, sources, and the like. And for the most part, I have found that to be true.