Masteron Experiences w/ bulking cycle

[cranium85]

what is bros opinions on adding mast in a bulking cycle?.

Any one have experience with mast a lot? ever used it during a bulking cycle?

I'm doing NPP, TPP, with some Test C but also adding in a little Mast P.

Never used Mast before and am interested to see how things turn out.

But if some Vets or anyone with Masteron experience can chine in? Whether they used it for cutting which it is most often used for, or used it in a bulking cycle? Please feel free to share your experiences or opinions.

Thank You

 

[jennerrator]

well, I'm using it as really a recomp/cutting cycle right now and it's pretty awesome. I'm tight, solid and veiny. I don't do bulk cycles so can't help you there

 

[cranium85]

Well you are a women correct? no need to really do bulking cycle unless you are into serious body building and competing.

What are u running the mast with

 

[Get Some]

Masteron for the purpose of bulking is ineffective and a waste of time. HOWEVER, adding it to an already solid bulking cycle can improve a number of things. It has anti-estrogenic properties that will lessen your chance of getting gyno and having to use more AIs. It will increase your libido and decrease water retention. Also, it gives very good strength gains. Personally, I like to add Mast prop for about the last 6 weeks of a bulker to really cut things up and help get the water out of my SQ tissue earlier. There really isn't a need to run mast for the first part of the cycle, I would save it for the opportune moment. You want to gain a little extra water in the beginning to support those joints and pack on some pounds. So if you're going 12 weeks, run it weeks 9-14 (6 weeks), which is 2 weeks past normal to give the chance for other longer test esters to clear. You will be amazed at what it can do for you just in those last 2 weeks after you have already been running it.

 

[jennerrator]

Well you are a women correct? no need to really do bulking cycle unless you are into serious body building and competing.

What are u running the mast with

This is true I'm running it with primo and winstrol

 

[cranium85]

Get Some: than you for the solid advice, i was planning on running it all the way thru have been sceptical. I think i will do exactly what u just said. One question, u say run it into the 14 weeks up until PCT pretty much. Should i do that with the TPP and NPP as well while i let the cyp clear out? or just run the mast for those two weeks? Thanks

Anyone else who has solid advice, i'm all ears fellas, and ladies

 

[cranium85]

This is true I'm running it with primo and winstrol

primo and wintrol interesting....i assume your not running any test because u are female right? no need really?

 

[Get Some]

I guess I don't understand why you're running both Cyp AND Tpp? Are you on TRT and just continuing your dosage? If this is the case then you don't need to worry about anything clearing, just run it like I said. If you are not on TRT and are going to do a PCT, then I would recommend dropping the cyp and just using TPP.

Get Some: than you for the solid advice, i was planning on running it all the way thru have been sceptical. I think i will do exactly what u just said. One question, u say run it into the 14 weeks up until PCT pretty much. Should i do that with the TPP and NPP as well while i let the cyp clear out? or just run the mast for those two weeks? Thanks

Anyone else who has solid advice, i'm all ears fellas, and ladies

 

[jennerrator]

primo and wintrol interesting....i assume your not running any test because u are female right? no need really?

Yeah, no test as of yet. Not to say it won't be in a future cycle at a very low dose. I will be adding Proviron the last 4 weeks also.

and you are correct, test is not needed

 

[picazzo]

My opinion is everything goes better with Mast P.
The more you use the less AI you will need for sure.
150-200 mgs every other day makes every cycle more enjoyable and more effective.

 

[cranium85]

I guess I don't understand why you're running both Cyp AND Tpp? Are you on TRT and just continuing your dosage? If this is the case then you don't need to worry about anything clearing, just run it like I said. If you are not on TRT and are going to do a PCT, then I would recommend dropping the cyp and just using TPP.

SFG suggested i run a long ester in with my cycle so i took his advice. My original Plan was to just use all short Esters. TPP, NPP, and Mast P. Why do u disagree with SFG?

i'm not quite sure of his reasoning behind adding in the Test Cyp. But he suggested that i add one cc of Test Cyp a week.

planning on running about 500 mgs/wk of TPP, 500 mg/wk of NPP, 450 mgs/ wk of Mast P( prob for at the end of the cycle as u suggested) and 250 mg/week of Test Cyp( as SFG suggested).

although i planned on just running 600 mgs/wk of TPP and no Test Cyp.
500 mg/wk NPP
450 mg/ wk Mast P

maybe some d-bols to start or t-bol not sure about that yet tho

but u suggest to drop the Test Cyp?

 

[Get Some]

Nothing against SFG, but I woudl drop the cyp, it's unnecesary. To be honest with you, the Phenylprorionate ester is not "short" to me, but more like medium. Test PP has a half life that is very similar to enanthate. So, there is no point in running Cyp unless you absolutely love that ester for some reason. Just run this:

TPP weeks 1-12 600mg EW
NPP weeks 1-12 600mg EW
Mast P weeks 9-14 400mg EW

and add in an oral at the beginning like dbol, as you mentioned. You will get muchmore out of a higher dose of mast at the end than a lower does throughout, that I can assure you of.

 

[cranium85]

Nothing against SFG, but I woudl drop the cyp, it's unnecesary. To be honest with you, the Phenylprorionate ester is not "short" to me, but more like medium. Test PP has a half life that is very similar to enanthate. So, there is no point in running Cyp unless you absolutely love that ester for some reason. Just run this:

TPP weeks 1-12 600mg EW
NPP weeks 1-12 600mg EW
Mast P weeks 9-14 400mg EW

and add in an oral at the beginning like dbol, as you mentioned. You will get muchmore out of a higher dose of mast at the end than a lower does throughout, that I can assure you of.

actually that was a typo i ment to write 450 /wk of mast Prop

 

[Bullseye Forever]

well im a little different,im now running test/deca/masteron eth from the start,to me it just synthsizes your other compounds,and as Get some said,libido increase,water decrease,helps with a.i.....also i have a higher BF is another reasone im using it from the start.so i will keep you updated on my cycle....and btw imo 400mg/week is plenty

 

[cranium85]

thanks bulls eye, yeah i was thinking 450 mgs a week because i'm doing Mast Prop 100 mgs/ml so i figured to do 150mgs on M T F would be easier than spreading my shots out to equal 400 mgs /wk.

I guess it's not that big of a deal, but just my thinking.

 

[cranium85]

So in everyones opinions... it's best to stick with either just short esters or long esters. Not do both.

Cuz i have deca 300, Test Cyp, Test Eth and could get Mast E. and could figure it into the cycle but the general feeling i'm getting is just either stick to short ester or long ester. Correct?

 

[cranium85]

yeah bro i can't fucking wait to start this next cycle, it was all made by a friend of mind and he gave me a really good deal on it. But this whole next cycle will all be exclusively his gear and from what i've been hearing from some of my other friends is that the gear is on point. So i'm like a kid in a candy store. Almost want to cut this cycle short just to do my PCT and start that cycle LOL.

Plus i've never did a cycle other then test and d-bols. So i'm super excited about this NPP and the Mast to top it off, i'm fucking excited bro lol

Was thinking about adding d-bol first 4 weeks but now maybe thinking about T-Bol, idk yet tho

 

[Bullseye Forever]

yeah bro i can't fucking wait to start this next cycle, it was all made by a friend of mind and he gave me a really good deal on it. But this whole next cycle will all be exclusively his gear and from what i've been hearing from some of my other friends is that the gear is on point. So i'm like a kid in a candy store. Almost want to cut this cycle short just to do my PCT and start that cycle LOL.

Plus i've never did a cycle other then test and d-bols. So i'm super excited about this NPP and the Mast to top it off, i'm fucking excited bro lol

Was thinking about adding d-bol first 4 weeks but now maybe thinking about T-Bol, idk yet tho

i always use test cyp with my cycles,because im on lifetime trt,so i keep it all the time and its already in my system and ive never had any problems with it using short esters,thats the only reason i use it,but for shorter cycles,yes test prop is great

 

[DADAWG]

ive always heard and what ive seen confirms that masteron lowers shbg which woulod make your testosterone much more effective.

 

[DF]

ive always heard and what ive seen confirms that masteron lowers shbg which woulod make your testosterone much more effective.

Great info to know Dadawg.