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    Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    I have been reading a lot of advice on this board about first cycles. Since I am a newb myself, I have written down questions that seem to keep popping up here and everywhere else. Some of these I have answered for myself, others not so much. Here are the most popular concerns new guys seem to have about their first cycle.

    1. Where can I get some gear?
    This one took a little time to figure out. You have to make friends, gain some trust, use common sense, and be patient. I feel pretty good about this one.

    2. Can I do an oral only cycle?
    Boy, is this one popular. What is it about new guys and pinning? The general consensus seems to be, "Now Way!" Me personally, once I decided to start using gear, I made my mind up to go all in. I have also been using phs for awhile and have become tired of the whole oral only thing.

    3. Ok-I have the gear, and I am ready to pin....how do I pin it and where?
    I am still working on this one. Seems like glutes are a pretty good place to start.


    4. Are people going to notice me gaining weight too fast?
    New guys are afraid somebody is going to notice that they are on gear. Does that mean people who notice will think we are criminals? Cheaters? Junkies? I don't know.....but I sure as hell hope somebody notices me getting jacked up!!

    5. Should I tell my wife or girlfriend?
    I will leave this up to Dr. Phil.

    6. How bad are my nuts going to shrivel?
    Seems like new guys are worried about their nuts. I was when I started down this journey. I think the answer is, "Pretty bad, bro-nature of the beast" The good news is they usually come back, and there are some things we can do to prevent it.I am still trying to decide whether I want to use HCG or not.



    7. How bad can gyno be?
    At first I thought,"Why would I spend years getting my chest to look like it does, to only risk having gyno?" Then after much research, I realized that gyno is typically a by-product of shitty planning.

    8. What would be a good compound to use for a first cycle?
    This one is easy....Test.

    9. Can I take an oral with my test for the first cycle?
    I don't know, man....this one is tough. I have heard yes and no. Some say it helps impatient new guys from thinking the test isn't working, others say test is enough for first cycle. I haven't decided yet.

    10. How should my training and nutrition change when "on"?
    I am still working on this one. I assume my strength will go up, so that will affect my training. I also assume that I need to be eating a surplus of calories to gain weight, but should I be eating more than I normally would for bulking naturally?

    That's it. That's my top 10 concerns for a newbie. I have a few more weeks before my first pining, and I have to admit I am FILLED with excitement.

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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Quote Originally Posted by Shane1974 View Post
    I have been reading a lot of advice on this board about first cycles. Since I am a newb myself, I have written down questions that seem to keep popping up here and everywhere else. Some of these I have answered for myself, others not so much. Here are the most popular concerns new guys seem to have about their first cycle.

    1. Where can I get some gear?
    This one took a little time to figure out. You have to make friends, gain some trust, use common sense, and be patient. I feel pretty good about this one.

    2.Can I do an oral only cycle?
    Boy, is this one popular. What is it about new guys and pinning? The general consensus seems to be, "Now Way!" Me personally, once I decided to start using gear, I made my mind up to go all in. I have also been using phs for awhile and have become tired of the whole oral only thing.

    3.Ok-I have the gear, and I am ready to pin....how do I pin it and where?
    I am still working on this one. Seems like glutes are a pretty good place to start.


    4. Are people going to notice me gaining weight too fast?
    New guys are afraid somebody is going to notice that they are on gear. Does that mean people who notice will think we are criminals? Cheaters? Junkies? I don't know.....but I sure as hell hope somebody notices me getting jacked up!!

    5. Should I tell my wife or girlfriend?
    I will leave this up to Dr. Phil.

    6. How bad are my nuts going to shrivel?
    Seems like new guys are worried about their nuts. I was when I started down this journey. I think the answer is, "Pretty bad, bro-nature of the beast" The good news is they usually come back, and there are some things we can do to prevent it.I am still trying to decide whether I want to use HCG or not.

    7. How bad can gyno be?
    At first I thought,"Why would I spend years getting my chest to look like it does, to only risk having gyno?" Then after much research, I realized that gyno is typically a by-product of shitty planning.

    8. What would be a good compound to use for a first cycle?
    This one is easy....Test.

    9. Can I take an oral with my test for the first cycle?
    I don't know, man....this one is tough. I have heard yes and no. Some say it helps impatient new guys from thinking the test isn't working, others say test is enough for first cycle. I haven't decided yet.

    10. How should my training and nutrition change when "on"?
    I am still working on this one. I assume my strength will go up, so that will affect my training. I also assume that I need to be eating a surplus of calories to gain weight, but should I be eating more than I normally would for bulking naturally?

    That's it. That's my top 10 concerns for a newbie. I have a few more weeks before my first pining, and I have to admit I am FILLED with excitement.
    Good little write up considering this covers pretty much every newb concern.

    1. Yes, be patient, put work in and learn learn learn. Number one thing I see is people join and automatically ask to much off the bat. With reading enough you should know the obvious and what to ask/not to.

    2. One word....DADAWG.

    3. Start with glutes. Plenty of pics/videos on the net explaining instramuscular/sub q inject techniques. Remember to rotate sites to lower the buildup of scar tissue.
    www.spotinjections.com to give you a visual of the sites.

    4. Yes they will. No way around the obvious weight gain.

    5. How trustworthy and sensitive are they to the possibility of you using aas. Some are ok, others have ended marraiges. You decide if its the smart move. Edjucate him/her on the subject.

    6. Some do and some dont get atrophy. With a test only cycle a proper pct nolva/clomid should bring the boys back. When working with 19nors (nandrolone! Trenbolone, ect) using hcg on cycle will help with test suppression. Caber on hand for Progesterone prolactin sides.

    7. Plan accordingly with your ai's to what compounds you are running. Some run them through the whole cycle, some wait till the first indication of gyno.

    8. I agree as most that test alone is more than enough for a first cycle. See how your body reacts and enjoy the ride.

    9. As I stated up top. Considering your diet is good and your training and sleep schedule, you will benefit greatly just from test. Hopefully you have trained hard and built up to this cycle, why not wait just alittle longer and let those esters do their job. Can always add orals on your next one. Do not just jump into things, but thats just my take.

    10. My training changes every few months whether on or off. Switch it up every now and then. Find your maintenance cals and go up from there. You "should" be gaining much faster with a good meal plan, and as you grow your cals will have to go up to go off of your body weight increase. Diet is the number one thing I see a problem with when people say they are not gaining anymore, or barely have gained weight and eat like a bird. I gained 22 lbs and only put on a half an inch on my waist my first cycle. I could have gained more but cut back due to your question number 4. Had to be careful with my job.
    "There are only two days in the year nothing can be done. One is called yesterday and the other is called tomorrow"

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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Pretty good writeup. It covers almost every noob question.
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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Good write up, Shane. I agree as a newbie myself, there are a lot of questions and misconceptions about AAS that need to be addressed before I can really make an educated decision for myself on my first cycle. If I hadn't read on my own, my friend who was lying in the first place about juicing would have started me with his 3rd cycle on tren/eq and test p! WTF?! I told him within 2 hours of that conversation he might as well cut my nuts off and scar me life.
    If anything, I can say to the first timer... READ READ READ, and when your brain hurts from information overload, take a day off and come back. Read some more, then start asking questions!

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    Great post Shane!! Very informative for all newbies!

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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Quality post Shane! I think we all had those concerns going into our first cycle...knowledge and maturity will get you through it with amazing gains.. You only get ONE first cycle!
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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Good work my friend Let me share a few items from your list having just finished my first test only correct cycle

    #3 I only pinned Glutes its by far the ezest in my opinion you can **** it up though dont pin to high. Also push slow and steady when pinning when pushing the plunger and pulling the pin out to fast or shaky and you will get pip. A good pin has minimal to no pain at all

    #4 People will notice just play it off if you dont want them to know just say "Diet is key 85% of bb once I got the proper diet my training came together offer examples if they dont believe you they can go **** themselves lol

    #6 My balls are large and in charge some days they felt a bit smaller but not much and I would def run the HCG I feel like its burning belly fat as well as jump starting my test I have killer shit but I would recommend y go all the way through a cycle and spend all that time and doe not to finish strong

    #7 I could tell when I needed to use my AI for the most part it was eod sometimes every three days sometimes ed i could tell when I needed it. get blood tests to confirm you are on the right path my estro was 19 test +1500 You will feel ichy all over hot flashes sometimes if somethings off question your estro thats what i did nips got ichy also

    Thats all I feel I learned thats worth sharing the rest is better left to someone else or you pretty much got it bro good luck
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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Proud of you shane...great points
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    Great post Shane!!
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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Quote Originally Posted by JOMO View Post
    Good little write up considering this covers pretty much every newb concern.

    1. Yes, be patient, put work in and learn learn learn. Number one thing I see is people join and automatically ask to much off the bat. With reading enough you should know the obvious and what to ask/not to.

    2. One word....DADAWG.

    3. Start with glutes. Plenty of pics/videos on the net explaining instramuscular/sub q inject techniques. Remember to rotate sites to lower the buildup of scar tissue.
    www.spotinjections.com to give you a visual of the sites.

    4. Yes they will. No way around the obvious weight gain.

    5. How trustworthy and sensitive are they to the possibility of you using aas. Some are ok, others have ended marraiges. You decide if its the smart move. Edjucate him/her on the subject.

    6. Some do and some dont get atrophy. With a test only cycle a proper pct nolva/clomid should bring the boys back. When working with 19nors (nandrolone! Trenbolone, ect) using hcg on cycle will help with test suppression. Caber on hand for Progesterone prolactin sides.

    7. Plan accordingly with your ai's to what compounds you are running. Some run them through the whole cycle, some wait till the first indication of gyno.

    8. I agree as most that test alone is more than enough for a first cycle. See how your body reacts and enjoy the ride.

    9. As I stated up top. Considering your diet is good and your training and sleep schedule, you will benefit greatly just from test. Hopefully you have trained hard and built up to this cycle, why not wait just alittle longer and let those esters do their job. Can always add orals on your next one. Do not just jump into things, but thats just my take.

    10. My training changes every few months whether on or off. Switch it up every now and then. Find your maintenance cals and go up from there. You "should" be gaining much faster with a good meal plan, and as you grow your cals will have to go up to go off of your body weight increase. Diet is the number one thing I see a problem with when people say they are not gaining anymore, or barely have gained weight and eat like a bird. I gained 22 lbs and only put on a half an inch on my waist my first cycle. I could have gained more but cut back due to your question number 4. Had to be careful with my job.


    Love your responses and suggestions. I posted this at Ology and it has a similar theme:

    Been reading so many threads from guys in their early 20s (even 18-19) about starting their first cycle. Most older vets would agree this is way too young. Here is my story and recommendation when to start and what to expect if you start way to early:

    I did practice what I am preaching, as I did not start AAS till 36 years of age, after my last kid, and well after I peaked in the gym (18 years of consistent working out). AAS then reinvigorated my life in the gym, and even outside the gym, in many ways. Bench went up 35% over past 9 years, as did all other lifts. Lost almost all body fat, and gained 20 lbs of muscle over this time, which I still have thanks to TRT (HRT). SO, while there are no hard fast rules to any of this, my recommendation is to wait till you have peaked in the gym, and have had your kids, which is generally in your 30s. It does worry me the number of young guys starting with AAS way too early. Read up on treads discussing TRT for life because of extended AAS use. It will happen to most of us.

    SO, guidelines are:
    1) I would NOT recommend getting started down the dark path of AAS till you have had 5-10 hard years in the gym optimizing your body. This ensures strong tendons, bones, and base of muscle strength, as well as knowledge about really lifting effectively. More importantly, you want to let your body build naturally through your 20s when Test is already pretty high. Having a more natural based of strength in the muscles, bones and tendons will also protect you from injury when the large jumps in strength occur with AAS.

    2) Another consideration is having kids. You do take a risk of infertility on extended AAS usage.

    3) 30 years old seems to be about right, maybe even a little older (but could be a little younger)

    4) Waiting longer makes one mentally more secure and able to deal with the emotional aspects of AAS usage. Not worth getting into it, but there are emotional, anxiety issues that can crop up with AAS use and the game.

    5) Why peak so early, as there is nothing to look forward to later in life. You will get bored of all this and the grind of the AAS game and being in the gym, give it time so working out is entrenched in your very soul, and AAS applied later in life will reinvigorate you in the gym and give you another 10 hard years.

    6) Although minor, AAS use at high dosages for long periods of time probably does have some risk for cardiovascular disease and a few other things, so the longer you wait, the better the risk management with aging.

    7) AAS use, especially in young people (18-25), will affect your personality. Not directly, but it will impact your self image and the way people respond to you. The older you are when all this happens, the more you can control and remain yourself. In business, when I walk into a room, other dudes (not women) naturally look to me for leadership, only because of my size and appearance. This can change your personality and self image.

    8) It will affect your sexual performance. Trust me when I tell you that everything you have read about it being a sexual super charger is temporally limited. Mostly happens first few cycles. Thereafter it has the opposite effect on most of us. It effs up your sexual function, and most guys need viagra, etc. This is a sure thing with extended use, trust me.

    9) You will likely need to be on TRT (HRT) the rest of your life when you stop. Not that there is anything wrong with this situation, but it is something to consider and can be a hassle. Wait till you are older.

    10) It is psychologically addicting, so once you start, you will not want to stop.

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    Re: Top 10 Concerns For A Newbie

    Great posts everyone! Newbie heaven right here!

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    Sticky!!

    Good write up!
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