43 y/o NOOB, first cycle. I appreciate any advice

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Adex is more powerful than Aromasin.

I'm not the best to give guidance on gyno issues, as I have never run into issues with it. But I'd think about taking 20mg of Nolva per day for a few days, until the tenderness goes away. Seek other's advice on this.

Then I'd think long and hard about pulling the rip cord and aborting the cycle, and starting PCT.

Again, I stand by my earlier statement that you don't need drugs to reach your goals. And look at the problems you're already having. Now you have to add in more drugs to offset the problems the original drugs are creating. Seems silly, right?

If not, drop to 300 mg weekly split into two 150 mg doses, twice per week. And take 0.25 - 0.5 mgs of Adex twice per week.

Seems like you're just one of the unlucky ones who are a high aromatizer.

You're right. I think I'm done with this experiment. I got a skin reaction Adex last time, so I tried Aromasin and it's even worse.

I'll start planning PCT. I'm not even sure I can take AIs now without a reaction.
 

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What do you think about cutting the test back to TRT levels and running something like Anavar? I'd like to salvage something from this cycle considering all the effort that went into it.

The gyno (if that's what it is) can be controlled by raloxifene from everything I've read.
 

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And ya leave them alone unless you need them but if ur getting those kid of
Skin reactions stop everything is mysdvice
 
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Christ. Doctor said it’s bedbugs. I need to get out of this apartment now

I just assumed it was related to taking a new medicine
 

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Christ. Doctor said it’s bedbugs. I need to get out of this apartment now

I just assumed it was related to taking a new medicine
For fuck sales bro🤣🤣🤣 that fuckin sux man bed bugs are a night mare u probly have to throw away all ur clothes to those fuckim things are terrible they don’t fuckin die! Unless u get a exterminator to come fumigate your place which I’m sure isn’t cheap and U will have to rent a hotel for a few days or just stay out of your home sorry to hear that bro that’s a crazy headache ur mattress ur clothes sheets everything garbage now
 
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For fuck sales bro🤣🤣🤣 that fuckin sux man bed bugs are a night mare u probly have to throw away all ur clothes to those fuckim things are terrible they don’t fuckin die! Unless u get a exterminator to come fumigate your place which I’m sure isn’t cheap and U will have to rent a hotel for a few days or just stay out of your home sorry to hear that bro that’s a crazy headache ur mattress ur clothes sheets everything garbage now

It's an AirBnB. This is exactly why I don't rent long-term places here. I didn't know that about my clothes though – fuck me
 

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It's an AirBnB. This is exactly why I don't rent long-term places here. I didn't know that about my clothes though – fuck me
Ya I might be wrong but those things are a fuckin bitch to get rid of they’re so strong at surviving
 
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Quick Qs:

Raloxifene got rid of the nipple tenderness pretty quickly. My issue now is low energy, and libido is way down from what it was before. I pretty much just workout and sleep lately.

I think this means estradiol is too high or low? I don't think it could be too low since I stopped AIs, and I don't really want to start them again.

Any thoughts? This is week 5, so I think should be feeling the test by now.
 

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Quick Qs:

Raloxifene got rid of the nipple tenderness pretty quickly. My issue now is low energy, and libido is way down from what it was before. I pretty much just workout and sleep lately.

I think this means estradiol is too high or low? I don't think it could be too low since I stopped AIs, and I don't really want to start them again.

Any thoughts? This is week 5, so I think should be feeling the test by now.
High E2 can cause a feeling of lethargy/tiredness. It does this indirectly by increasing thyroxine binding globulin. This has a high binding affinity with both T3 and T4 thyroid hormones, leaving less free thyroid hormone available in serum for use. This could lead to feeling lethargic or tired.

High E2 is relative to each individual. So I can't say if this is your issue. I can only comment that it is possible to feel tired from excessive E2. Other things can create the same feeling, such as cortisol for example.

The only way for you to know for sure is to get an E2 ultrasensitive test done, and evaluate how to adjust yourself from there
 

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All you're going to get is guesses. Get bloodwork.
 
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This is what it was last week. I don’t think it would be wildly different now

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Your estradiol looks fine, and your testosterone is legit.
 

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I would not consider that E2 very high, just going on numbers only. My initial thought is that your lethargy is not related to estrogen... but more bio markers would tell you for sure.

What is your diet like in terms of calories, and macro nutrient break down, per day? I'm especially interested in the macro distribution as it relates to total caloric intake.
 
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I would not consider that E2 very high, just going on numbers only. My initial thought is that your lethargy is not related to estrogen... but more bio markers would tell you for sure.

What is your diet like in terms of calories, and macro nutrient break down, per day? I'm especially interested in the macro distribution as it relates to total caloric intake.
Yeah I need to start watching macros more closely. I usually eat low carb, and someone mentioned that might be the problem. So I added a ton of oatmeal and rice in the last week.

Protein is extremely high. Fats are probably low – I'm still trying to eat healthy while running a moderate caloric surplus.

I'll start tracking actual numbers.
 
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