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    Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    I have been hearing a lot of "My gear is bunk" lately. I am beginning to wonder if maybe some of that "bunk" gear could be contributed to operator error. I know that there IS bunk gear out there...but if someone else is growing on the same shit, and you are not... What do you guys think?

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Mad cow disease is the only plausible answer to any question asked here

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    My balls are bunk
    There's nothing like a slice of tiller to get your day started -PFM

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Lack of food is the death of good gear

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    It could be a lack of food, a lack of proper diet, a lack of training. The gear I have is 100% legit, I know for a fact. I can feel it. I don't doubt if people have other labs gear that are going downhill that they will run across this problem.

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    First and foremost- KNOW WHO IS COOKING YOUR GEAR.

    If you get some damn web based Internet lab gear you have no idea who is making it or what the skill level or the level of dedication and pride in their product is. Typically you are buying under-dosed gear from those larger UGLs with poor quality control.

    Bro's that have been around a while and have been cooking and learning and sourcing on a smaller scale pay close personal attention to their product and go the extra mile to make sure they have good raws and see that everything from the oils to the filters are top notch. Some guys in larger UGLs will **** up a batch and sell that shit anyway. A small private source doing that would be out of business in a week.

    The private providers I use are night and day better than the "Pinn's" of the Internet and yes- I have ten bottles of Primo and six bottles of Tren from Pinn on hand now and I am running Pinn tren... so, yes, I know what they are selling (didn't get them from Pinn- got them from a bro I trust here and took them off his hands).

    Know you cook brothers and get references from experienced brothers who have been around before giving them you hard earned dollars. After all- you are INJECTING their product in to YOUR body.

    Much Respect Bros and Sisters,
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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Originally Posted by 63Vette View Post
    First and foremost- KNOW WHO IS COOKING YOUR GEAR.

    If you get some damn web based Internet lab gear you have no idea who is making it or what the skill level or the level of dedication and pride in their product is. Typically you are buying under-dosed gear from those larger UGLs with poor quality control.

    Bro's that have been around a while and have been cooking and learning and sourcing on a smaller scale pay close personal attention to their product and go the extra mile to make sure they have good raws and see that everything from the oils to the filters are top notch. Some guys in larger UGLs will **** up a batch and sell that shit anyway. A small private source doing that would be out of business in a week.

    The private providers I use are night and day better than the "Pinn's" of the Internet and yes- I have ten bottles of Primo and six bottles of Tren from Pinn on hand now and I am running Pinn tren... so, yes, I know what they are selling (didn't get them from Pinn- got them from a bro I trust here and took them off his hands).

    Know you cook brothers and get references from experienced brothers who have been around before giving them you hard earned dollars. After all- you are INJECTING their product in to YOUR body.

    Much Respect Bros and Sisters,
    Vette
    I use a private lab too; couldn't be happier.

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Originally Posted by 63Vette View Post
    First and foremost- KNOW WHO IS COOKING YOUR GEAR.

    If you get some damn web based Internet lab gear you have no idea who is making it or what the skill level or the level of dedication and pride in their product is. Typically you are buying under-dosed gear from those larger UGLs with poor quality control.

    Bro's that have been around a while and have been cooking and learning and sourcing on a smaller scale pay close personal attention to their product and go the extra mile to make sure they have good raws and see that everything from the oils to the filters are top notch. Some guys in larger UGLs will **** up a batch and sell that shit anyway. A small private source doing that would be out of business in a week.

    The private providers I use are night and day better than the "Pinn's" of the Internet and yes- I have ten bottles of Primo and six bottles of Tren from Pinn on hand now and I am running Pinn tren... so, yes, I know what they are selling (didn't get them from Pinn- got them from a bro I trust here and took them off his hands).

    Know you cook brothers and get references from experienced brothers who have been around before giving them you hard earned dollars. After all- you are INJECTING their product in to YOUR body.

    Much Respect Bros and Sisters,
    Vette
    The company I use is private also, its very high quality. Good words.

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Other than being bunk, I see the number one thing looked past is diet. People think they are eating correctly or enought when mostly it is the opposite.
    "There are only two days in the year nothing can be done. One is called yesterday and the other is called tomorrow"

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    IMO and in order of importance:

    Properly tuned Diet
    Workout routine and intensity
    Adequate Hydration
    Recovery including bcaa's and protein/glutamine
    Quality Gear (which should aid in shortening your recovery time).

    The fact that so many experienced bros are using private sources should say something to the younger/newer guys. I don;t want to talk to a marketing director if I have a problem or concern- I want to talk to the man that cooked the gear.

    My four cents- sorry,
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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Originally Posted by 63Vette View Post
    IMO and in order of importance:

    Properly tuned Diet
    Workout routine and intensity
    Adequate Hydration
    Recovery including bcaa's and protein/glutamine
    Quality Gear (which should aid in shortening your recovery time).

    The fact that so many experienced bros are using private sources should say something to the younger/newer guys. I don;t want to talk to a marketing director if I have a problem or concern- I want to talk to the man that cooked the gear.

    My four cents- sorry,
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    And what he said!
    "There are only two days in the year nothing can be done. One is called yesterday and the other is called tomorrow"

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    I'd like to run a private lab....it's looking like I have a life time supply of PINN thanks to that asshole Zeek

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Originally Posted by grind4it View Post
    I'd like to run a private lab....it's looking like I have a life time supply of PINN thanks to that asshole Zeek
    Same boat Im in!
    "There are only two days in the year nothing can be done. One is called yesterday and the other is called tomorrow"

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    That's how I ended up with twenty bottles of tren and primo for pennies on the dollar.... I will use it to cut the good Tren I get a little PIP from. ****ing GSO with a smidgen of test lol....

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    A schmear of test, lol.
    "There are only two days in the year nothing can be done. One is called yesterday and the other is called tomorrow"

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    how can anyone say thier gear is bunk without bloodwork?

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    Originally Posted by Brother Bundy View Post
    how can anyone say thier gear is bunk without bloodwork?
    If you have done multiple cycles on properly dosed gear you know.

    I had fake dbol once. I didn't need a blood test to tell me it was bunk. When I switched brands I instantly gained 10 lbs of water lol.

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    Originally Posted by 69nites View Post
    If you have done multiple cycles on properly dosed gear you know.

    I had fake dbol once. I didn't need a blood test to tell me it was bunk. When I switched brands I instantly gained 10 lbs of water lol.
    ya your right but still before throwing the word bunk out u should get bloods to prove it

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    Re: Hmmmm...You Sure, Man?

    The only thing a blood test will show is if your test is good or not. Test is the cheapest compound to get. if a lab is gonna skimp, they more then likely wont do it on test. This is where experience comes into play. If I've ran a compound before and run it again, then I have a comparison. If I've never ran it before then all I have to go on is what people say I should expect.

    Hands down, the number one reason people say thier gear is bunk is because of diet. It can be a number of things but the main one is diet. If I stop growing, then I need to eat more. The younger generation seems to think they can continue to eat like a bird and pack on 25 lbs every cycle eating like they did when they weighed 180.

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    These are true words right here
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    Originally Posted by coltmc4545 View Post
    The only thing a blood test will show is if your test is good or not. Test is the cheapest compound to get. if a lab is gonna skimp, they more then likely wont do it on test. This is where experience comes into play. If I've ran a compound before and run it again, then I have a comparison. If I've never ran it before then all I have to go on is what people say I should expect.

    Hands down, the number one reason people say thier gear is bunk is because of diet. It can be a number of things but the main one is diet. If I stop growing, then I need to eat more. The younger generation seems to think they can continue to eat like a bird and pack on 25 lbs every cycle eating like they did when they weighed 180.

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