I started TRT back in February. I had started working out and working with 3J before I got on TRT few months prior. I was probably near 180 lbs. I'd guess close to 20% BF, didn't have it checked at the time. Over time and after starting TRT, I came down to 15% BF and 162 lbs. after a certain point, no matter how much I worked out, I can't go under or over this 162 lbs. I've fluctuated a bit over up to 166 lbs. since I started my blast on August 1st. However, I weighed myself today and am at 162.8 lbs. It's kind of making me depressed and don't know what's going on. I'm working with spongy now, after working with 3J and trying to gain and not being able to I was wondering if it's him (but I did consider it being me as well, because of how much I'm eating) and now after working with Spongy for a month or so, it's clear to me that I am the problem.
I don't want to list my meal plan because I'm working with spongy but, I eat 6 times a day, with an occasional missed meal. Lately, usually no protein shakes unless it's to replace a meal because of my schedule or work but, it's occasional I'm getting all my protein mostly from food. I eat a big meal every 2 hrs. going to the grocery store every week, it feels like I'm spending more money eating at home now than I used to when I used to eat out. I have no problem turning down the junk food I used to eat, I take my food to work now and eat what's on my meal plan.
3J had said that I might have an over-active thyroid and so I had it checked and my TSH came out just slightly higher than the cut-off but, the thing is that if your TSH is high that means you're supposed to have trouble losing weight. When your TSH is low is when you're supposed to have problems gaining weight. So, it doesn't make any sense that I'm having problems gaining with an elevated TSH. I'm on vitamin d shots now to see if it will help with TSH. I've been on these shots for a month I guess, not really noticing any difference. Haven't had my blood checked to see where my TSH is.
So my TRT dose was test cyp 210mg E5D when I first started, then I brought it down to 210mg E7D. Because at E5D my blood test showed i was 1500+ My blast that I started on Aug. 1st was at 420mg E7D (split in two shots Mon/thurs), and this week I'm increasing my dose to 540mg/E7D. The scripted test I get is 210mg/ml so that's the reason the numbers are like that. I'm supposed to start var at the end of this month I think, or next month. My blast was going to be 20 weeks at 420mg/wk but, since I can't gain anything, I wanted to increase it this week. Then in the last 6 weeks I was going to run the var.
I've been planning my next blast and want to run NPP + tbol. I'm wondering if at the end of this blast I don't gain anything should I just keep going and start the NPP? I know after I'm done with the var I need to give myself a break to recover from the oral so initially I was planning on kickstarting my 2nd blast with tbol but, that was thinking that I was going to make gains after my first blast and give myself a break and come back to the 2nd blast later. However, I'm thinking if I don't make any gains, I don't want to just stop and waste time for nothing (though my health is important so if I have to, I will of course) so I figured if i just keep going and add the NPP then instead of kickstarting with tbol, I'll just run it at the end of the blast like I did the var, so that would give me enough time to recover from the oral. Would that work? Because I'm on TRT so it doesn't really matter how long I'm on? As long as I get my blood test done and everything seems fine? Or what about if I just add the NPP now? Because if I can't gain anything off 420/mg wk, 8 weeks in or if I give myself another 6 weeks on 540 mg/wk and don't see any gains, then continuing to run it seems pointless like I'm just wasting gear. If I add in the NPP then at least I can make use of the test.
As for training when I was on trt I was doing p90x but, then people told me it was shit and to go to the gym, so I started going to the gym when i started the blast. I've been working with a trainer at the gym that sets me up with the workout plans. Also the last two weeks I stopped doing cardio on Tues/Thurs. Even then I only walk on the treadmill, I don't run or even jog but, I would do about 1.5-2 miles and on varies inclines, elliptical after working out on resistance days. I thought maybe if I stop the cardio then it might help me to gain but, after checking my weight today I'm back down to 162.8.
I don't want to list my meal plan because I'm working with spongy but, I eat 6 times a day, with an occasional missed meal. Lately, usually no protein shakes unless it's to replace a meal because of my schedule or work but, it's occasional I'm getting all my protein mostly from food. I eat a big meal every 2 hrs. going to the grocery store every week, it feels like I'm spending more money eating at home now than I used to when I used to eat out. I have no problem turning down the junk food I used to eat, I take my food to work now and eat what's on my meal plan.
3J had said that I might have an over-active thyroid and so I had it checked and my TSH came out just slightly higher than the cut-off but, the thing is that if your TSH is high that means you're supposed to have trouble losing weight. When your TSH is low is when you're supposed to have problems gaining weight. So, it doesn't make any sense that I'm having problems gaining with an elevated TSH. I'm on vitamin d shots now to see if it will help with TSH. I've been on these shots for a month I guess, not really noticing any difference. Haven't had my blood checked to see where my TSH is.
So my TRT dose was test cyp 210mg E5D when I first started, then I brought it down to 210mg E7D. Because at E5D my blood test showed i was 1500+ My blast that I started on Aug. 1st was at 420mg E7D (split in two shots Mon/thurs), and this week I'm increasing my dose to 540mg/E7D. The scripted test I get is 210mg/ml so that's the reason the numbers are like that. I'm supposed to start var at the end of this month I think, or next month. My blast was going to be 20 weeks at 420mg/wk but, since I can't gain anything, I wanted to increase it this week. Then in the last 6 weeks I was going to run the var.
I've been planning my next blast and want to run NPP + tbol. I'm wondering if at the end of this blast I don't gain anything should I just keep going and start the NPP? I know after I'm done with the var I need to give myself a break to recover from the oral so initially I was planning on kickstarting my 2nd blast with tbol but, that was thinking that I was going to make gains after my first blast and give myself a break and come back to the 2nd blast later. However, I'm thinking if I don't make any gains, I don't want to just stop and waste time for nothing (though my health is important so if I have to, I will of course) so I figured if i just keep going and add the NPP then instead of kickstarting with tbol, I'll just run it at the end of the blast like I did the var, so that would give me enough time to recover from the oral. Would that work? Because I'm on TRT so it doesn't really matter how long I'm on? As long as I get my blood test done and everything seems fine? Or what about if I just add the NPP now? Because if I can't gain anything off 420/mg wk, 8 weeks in or if I give myself another 6 weeks on 540 mg/wk and don't see any gains, then continuing to run it seems pointless like I'm just wasting gear. If I add in the NPP then at least I can make use of the test.
As for training when I was on trt I was doing p90x but, then people told me it was shit and to go to the gym, so I started going to the gym when i started the blast. I've been working with a trainer at the gym that sets me up with the workout plans. Also the last two weeks I stopped doing cardio on Tues/Thurs. Even then I only walk on the treadmill, I don't run or even jog but, I would do about 1.5-2 miles and on varies inclines, elliptical after working out on resistance days. I thought maybe if I stop the cardio then it might help me to gain but, after checking my weight today I'm back down to 162.8.