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It seems the debate will rage on endlessly between the two predominant schools of thoughts on this topic: is it better to run Tren > Test or vise verse?
I thought I'd share my experience.
Age: 40-something and getting younger every day.
Experience: been in the gym since I was 13. Lifting regularly ever since.
Cycles: I'm on TRT and blast & cruise. Have now two Tren cycles completed (nearly).
1st Tren Blast: 400 Mg Test E / 400 Mg Tren E / 400 Mg Mast E: this ended-up being a 14 week 'blast' during which I achieved a massive recomp and added a metric fawk-ton of gym strength. Diet was carb cycling, and slightly below maintenance. Sides were present, but not severe. Bit of insomnia (I never sleep well anyway), occasional bought of night sweats - nothing requiring a change of sheets . Libido was decent to good, I'll rate a 3.5 on a 5 point scale. Bloods at the conclusion of this blast showed my E2 had spiked and as such I increased my AI (I ran 'stane throughout).
2nd Tren Blast: 200 Mg Test E / 300 mg Tren E / 400 Mg Mast E: my present blast, 14 weeks with 4 remaining. Night sweats have been SEVERE. Routinely soaking the sheets, using bath towels as buffers to the box spring, etc. Insomnia has also been severe. I've taken to tossing 50 Mg of Diphenhydramine before hitting the rack to give myself hope of actually falling asleep rather than just passing out from exhaustion after tossing and turning all night. Gym results are good, strength is up, diet is more a lean bulker this time around (thank you Sponge!) but fatigue from poor sleep is catching-up with me in a big way, impacting quality of life.
My thoughts: am contemplating bumping my Test up to 400 Mg for the next 6 weeks and leaving all else constant to see if doing so will actually abate some of the undesirable sides brought on by the Tren. Am also considering (possibly post Test increase) abandoning the notion of blasting and cruising entirely and instead settling on a self-prescribed TRT cruise of 200 Mg Test and 150 Mg Tren.
Cheers, Mates. I know this won't settle the debate, but having one Bro's experience might be helpful to some. Your feedback is welcomed.
Peace.
- Savage
I thought I'd share my experience.
Age: 40-something and getting younger every day.
Experience: been in the gym since I was 13. Lifting regularly ever since.
Cycles: I'm on TRT and blast & cruise. Have now two Tren cycles completed (nearly).
1st Tren Blast: 400 Mg Test E / 400 Mg Tren E / 400 Mg Mast E: this ended-up being a 14 week 'blast' during which I achieved a massive recomp and added a metric fawk-ton of gym strength. Diet was carb cycling, and slightly below maintenance. Sides were present, but not severe. Bit of insomnia (I never sleep well anyway), occasional bought of night sweats - nothing requiring a change of sheets . Libido was decent to good, I'll rate a 3.5 on a 5 point scale. Bloods at the conclusion of this blast showed my E2 had spiked and as such I increased my AI (I ran 'stane throughout).
2nd Tren Blast: 200 Mg Test E / 300 mg Tren E / 400 Mg Mast E: my present blast, 14 weeks with 4 remaining. Night sweats have been SEVERE. Routinely soaking the sheets, using bath towels as buffers to the box spring, etc. Insomnia has also been severe. I've taken to tossing 50 Mg of Diphenhydramine before hitting the rack to give myself hope of actually falling asleep rather than just passing out from exhaustion after tossing and turning all night. Gym results are good, strength is up, diet is more a lean bulker this time around (thank you Sponge!) but fatigue from poor sleep is catching-up with me in a big way, impacting quality of life.
My thoughts: am contemplating bumping my Test up to 400 Mg for the next 6 weeks and leaving all else constant to see if doing so will actually abate some of the undesirable sides brought on by the Tren. Am also considering (possibly post Test increase) abandoning the notion of blasting and cruising entirely and instead settling on a self-prescribed TRT cruise of 200 Mg Test and 150 Mg Tren.
Cheers, Mates. I know this won't settle the debate, but having one Bro's experience might be helpful to some. Your feedback is welcomed.
Peace.
- Savage