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    4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    So I was gonna take the dive into tren... but then I figured I liked npp the most out of my other cycles so why not give it another go. Ill probably be buying it soon with Christmas money (yep, I'm 26 and still get some, w00t) so I figured I would run it by you guys.

    Goal is quality muscle/a little cutting. That nice beach ready look.

    I'm thinking I want to run the npp higher than the test since npp didn't really give me any sides. I never even had to use the Caber I had. Last time I ran npp/test c at 450/500 a week. This time I am thinking npp/test p at 600/300 a week. Injections MWF. 12-16 weeks. If I can get some TPP I will sub that in instead. Anything I should be concerned with running the npp higher?

    I'm also thinking masteron, even just for the end. Maybe the last 8-10 weeks to harden up. But I'm unsure of the dosage since I am only running 300 mg test. I figured I would just run it at 300 also, but would that be enough to even notice it?

    Thanks guys!

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    I have a log here somewhere on it but I recently ran a test npp cycle with t at 225? I think and npp at 700? i think. I never had any libido issues whatsoever but I started feeling like dick and was starting to get moody. My e was in check and I was taking caber eod. I wound up lowering my npp to 600 and upping my test to 600 as well. I don't see a problem with running with that ratio but I would also suggest having some prop and cialis on hand just in case you run into any pp problems. I also don't see anything wrong with throwing in mast either. I would probably just run the mast at 400ish and from the start if its mast e though but that's just me.

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Cool. Thanks colt. Keeping extra test around just in case sounds like a good idea.

    Actually I would prefer to run Mast P. Your gonna have a PM heading your way btw.

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    You may run into prolactin issues running NPP anyways. Which could result in the infamous side effect "deca dick". Cabergoline will help. I suggest you start Caber at 0.5 miligrams once a week. It can be harsh as high as you should go is 1 miligram split in 2 weekly doses.

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Yep. Still got my caber from last time actually since I didn't use it.
    Thanks for the replies.
    ....anyone for saying "screw it" and just running tren?

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    I loved tren, but want to try NPP but being in the higher BF range a bulk cycle is not as appealing at the moment. But I'm sure ill cave in eventually and run it
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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    I'm jealous..... I simply cannot run deca/npp... it makes me feel like total shit. I agree with what Colt said by the way.

    I love tren and will be back on tren in January. It will probably be test 400 and tren 600 to start...

    Log your run brother and I am subbed!

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Hey op if ypur ladt cycle worked well then you know what you can handle. I am all about you goin at it the way you have it laid out. Its easy to fix any estro or prolactin issues as long as you got the tools on hand and you don't panic. I like the mast p idea but mast e works just as well. Mast is an excellent compound to add to any cycle...i run it in all of my cycles. And scratch the tpp...that shit is the mist over hyped test ester ever known. You could give prop to almost anyone and tell them it was tpp and they wouldn't know the difference when on it. I would rather go with test e on this cycle anyway....I would also stop the npp a couple weeks before the test just to help your body clear the 19 nor before pct.

    And if you like npp that much then do it bro....tren will always be there :-)

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Hmm... Maybe I will do test e and mast e. it'd be cheaper and then I may not have to run the test longer since it'll last longer anyway.... Hell and I guess I've never tried deca... Now u got me thinking about long esters and got me tempted.... Well at least I've got some time to think about it. Thanks guys!

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    O ya and I plan on logging it... Dam I suck at logs though.... Amazing I can go to the gym dam near everyday... But can't take 5 minutes some days and write shit down. I feel like I'm in college again and doing homework lol.... Well I was never good at doing that either come to think about it.

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Originally Posted by 0tj0 View Post
    Hmm... Maybe I will do test e and mast e. it'd be cheaper and then I may not have to run the test longer since it'll last longer anyway.... Hell and I guess I've never tried deca... Now u got me thinking about long esters and got me tempted.... Well at least I've got some time to think about it. Thanks guys!
    I would stretch the test out 4 weeks longer then deca if you decide to use deca. I lime the npp for you though as you already like it and know what its going to do. But I'm also not against trying new things

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    why not run both @ 500??

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    2 19 nors not good idea ones hard enough on u..

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Originally Posted by jyoung8j View Post
    2 19 nors not good idea ones hard enough on u..
    i ment tes/NPP both at 500

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    O lol thts better..lol usually say keep test 200 above npp/deca..

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    well my last cycle was relativly high test dose and i liked my npp cycle better. because of that i want the npp to be the primary. i will keep extra test around incase i need it though.

    side note: although npp and deca are technically both 19 nors that rule doesnt apply since they are the same compound with different esters. its not like running tren abd deca. not only could u run them both but npp can be used to kick start a deca cycle pretty easily.

    sorry for the shorthand and any mistakes. im on my phone

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    and now i just realised you probably meant tren plus npp/deca is a bad idea. and yes you are correct... sorry. i misunderstood the first time. carry on.

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    Re: 4th cycle. Npp again. Couple questions.

    Correct thts Wht I meant.. did u see more leaner gains on npp.. I'm on wk8 and I've put on size but mainly leaned me out even 1000 calories over my bmr..

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