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    On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    ok so I tried test prop. My body hates it. Lumps, swollen, red, pain, ****.

    I want to drop it and switch back to enanthate without feeling my T levels drop too much. Does it need to be tapered down while the enanthate is tapered up? My understanding is that it takes a while for enanthate to build up, and I know prop does not last long.

    I am on year round, how would you do it? Please enlighten me


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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Yes, taper down the prop while ramping up test e....

    But: don't start ramping down the prop for the first week.

    It is not an exact process but I have done it with several compounds.

    P to e I would start the 'e', and continue to run the prop as usual for the first week... then cut by 1/3 each week for the next three weeks. Pin the dose of 'e' you want to run from day one. You will probably have a little overlap. Run aromasine 12.5 mg eod.

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Thanks for the quick reply Vette. That was my plans, but wanted to see if there was a way to just "stop" pinning that Tabasco sauce.

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    LOL.... prop can be a real bitch.... you can cut it with (sterile) CSO or GSO or OE and it may help. Once you cut your dose you can make up the third you cut with the cutting oil.

    Don't give up on all 'prop' or short esters though brother. Test prop is the only short ester compound that ever bothered me.

    Also, the ester is counted in the dose of mg/ml in the compound. It's a slight difference but you may want to add about 25mg for every 100mg you intend on pinning of 'e' to what you were pinning of prop.

    (i.e., you shoot 300mg ew of prop you may need to go as high as 375mg ew of 'e')

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Cutting the prop won't help. He's reacting to the propionic acid, not the mg/ml amount... I react to it too. Sucks. But after about 4 pins in the same spot I stop reacting like that.

    If it were me switching up esters like this for this reason, I'd drop the prop right away and frontload the test enanthate. You'll dip a bit but so what.

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    start test e before you quit the prop, 2 weeks prior.. ive done this many times


    take 50mg prop each 3rd day after you inject 1s cc of test e , do this for 2 weeks
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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Good to know I have options POB. And thanks for the explanation. I will just stay away from it from now on.

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Prop is a bitch, but i love it. I blasted and cruised on prop for almost a year lol

    i agree with the others. Taper it down.

    Stop the prop a few weeks in

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Test P gets a bad name everywhere! Heat that shit up! There's little to no PIP if you heat it to at least 150 F. The melting point for Test P is much higher than Test C.

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    Re: On Prop, want to switch back to enanthate...

    Originally Posted by samcooke View Post
    ok so I tried test prop. My body hates it. Lumps, swollen, red, pain, ****.

    I want to drop it and switch back to enanthate without feeling my T levels drop too much. Does it need to be tapered down while the enanthate is tapered up? My understanding is that it takes a while for enanthate to build up, and I know prop does not last long.

    I am on year round, how would you do it? Please enlighten me


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    I hate it also and is why I use Test Phenylpropionate, no pain faster ester but I do lump on large shots but there is a fix for that and that is smaller shots.

    Give TPP a try some day!
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