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    500mg test e cycle pct.

    Finishing up 12 week cycle of 500mg test e only. Have clomid and nova on hand but not sure I need both. I was thinking clomid might be all I need at 50/50/50/50. I understand that 2 weeks after last pin is correct to start. Any suggestion or concerns ????.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Yes u need both, nova 40/40/20/20
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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Originally Posted by Jada View Post
    Yes u need both, nova 40/40/20/20
    Just to clarify that would be 40 mg ed for first two weeks then 20mg ed for the following two weeks

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Correction .. U don't NEED both but both would be the recommendation
    And u are correct 40mg week one and two
    And 20mg the following two weeks

    This is the basic pct
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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Is it correct that pct is designed to help you keep a larger percentage of your gains. I have done so much reading on here that everything starts to run together. Lol. Wondering to what else a person can do to help hold on there gains.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Eat....a lot

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Powermaster, I found when I used to cycle that the single biggest key to me retaining gains was my mentality. I had to mentally prepare myself for acceptable losses in size and strength, and emotional instability, but I would wake up every morning and tell myself that it was all normal and I could not let it keep me out of the gym OR out of the fridge. I needed to keep lifting and eating smart and consistently.

    Chemically though, clomid and nolva will absolutely help and are the tried and true. There are other options out there that CAN be amazing, but about 50% are non-responders, so for this one just stick with the old standby. Also, HCG is important. You can recover without it, but it would have been wise if you were using it for the past 12 weeks and then blast it for the two weeks BEFORE pct. If you haven't done it, lesson learned. Use HCG next time.

    Lastly, I may catch some flack for this, but I swear to GOD my experience with a natty test booster made by Purus Labs called Recycle was awesome. I used it alongside my PCT, not in place of it, and my libido never faltered, most of my gains stuck, strength stayed up, and mood was completely normal. Don't knock it until you've tried it, because you may just have the best PCT ever.
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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Originally Posted by SAD View Post
    Powermaster, I found when I used to cycle that the single biggest key to me retaining gains was my mentality. I had to mentally prepare myself for acceptable losses in size and strength, and emotional instability, but I would wake up every morning and tell myself that it was all normal and I could not let it keep me out of the gym OR out of the fridge. I needed to keep lifting and eating smart and consistently.

    Chemically though, clomid and nolva will absolutely help and are the tried and true. There are other options out there that CAN be amazing, but about 50% are non-responders, so for this one just stick with the old standby. Also, HCG is important. You can recover without it, but it would have been wise if you were using it for the past 12 weeks and then blast it for the two weeks BEFORE pct. If you haven't done it, lesson learned. Use HCG next time.

    Lastly, I may catch some flack for this, but I swear to GOD my experience with a natty test booster made by Purus Labs called Recycle was awesome. I used it alongside my PCT, not in place of it, and my libido never faltered, most of my gains stuck, strength stayed up, and mood was completely normal. Don't knock it until you've tried it, because you may just have the best PCT ever.
    See thats where I get confused. Hcg for the full 12 weeks but this being my first cycle it was suggested to just use test only. Dont know much about hcg but will research it for sure and maybe run it on next cycle. I will definitely eat more. I figured to it would be more of a mind set.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Who suggested test only? Were they implying you shouldn't take any other AAS compounds? If so, then yes, I agree. But if they were implying only test and NOTHING else including hcg and an AI and PCT etc, then they need to be exposed and taught a thing or two-million.

    Search pregnenolone here and you'll see just one avenue by which HCG is important.
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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Originally Posted by SAD View Post
    Who suggested test only? Were they implying you shouldn't take any other AAS compounds? If so, then yes, I agree. But if they were implying only test and NOTHING else including hcg and an AI and PCT etc, then they need to be exposed and taught a thing or two-million.

    Search pregnenolone here and you'll see just one avenue by which HCG is important.
    Yes I got to thinking about that and I think you are right. They were suggesting not to stack any other was on top of the test.
    Thanks for all they replies. A person never stops learning here.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    what sad said....except for the natty test booster

    when cycling...there is absolutely no way on earth your gonna keep your gains. Your test levels crash and that right there will result in loss of muscle mass. People who say they kept everything while in pct are just plain stupid. They convert muscle to fat and since the scale reads close to the same they think they kept the weight. The only way to really keep your gains after a blast is with trt. Pct is more designed to get your hpta functioning normally again and get your natty test producing which in turn will help keep gains...so keeping your gains is a secondary objective in pct. IMO

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Originally Posted by Cobra Strike View Post
    what sad said....except for the natty test booster

    when cycling...there is absolutely no way on earth your gonna keep your gains. Your test levels crash and that right there will result in loss of muscle mass. People who say they kept everything while in pct are just plain stupid. They convert muscle to fat and since the scale reads close to the same they think they kept the weight. The only way to really keep your gains after a blast is with trt. Pct is more designed to get your hpta functioning normally again and get your natty test producing which in turn will help keep gains...so keeping your gains is a secondary objective in pct. IMO
    So are u suggesting hcg during cycle or just blast hcg before pct?
    Also is all hcg reconstituted or is there such a thing as ready to hcg.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Ya I always recommend hcg during cycle and pre serm therapy. Its only beneficial so why not?

    Hcg degenerates so the shelf life isnt long enough to come pre mixed....so to answer your question its always something you should reconstitute yourself with Bacteriostatic water.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    I did Clomid only pct but I was also on hcg during my cycle.

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Not finding much on hcg mixing. I know self life is short so how is a 5000iu vial broken down in to say 250 iu 2xweek? Was looking at getting two 5000iu vials and running 250 iu 2xweek then maybe blast before pct. just need some info on mixing and reconstituting whatever that is

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    If u want 250 2x a week u need any number divided by 20 needed units
    So two Cc bac water in a 5000vial every ten mark on slin pin is 250mcg
    And four CC bac water would be every 20mark
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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Forgot to add. That one vial will last 10 weeks at that does and it's not good that long so u would have to pre load half about and freeze them is what I did

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Originally Posted by Four1Thr33 View Post
    Forgot to add. That one vial will last 10 weeks at that does and it's not good that long so u would have to pre load half about and freeze them is what I did
    Can you explain the pre load

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Just curious on What kind of Gains did you achieve on Test only cycle?

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    Re: 500mg test e cycle pct.

    Originally Posted by 86vette07 View Post
    Just curious on What kind of Gains did you achieve on Test only cycle?
    Gained about 20lbs .not much gains in strength though.

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