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    how much size do you keep???

    ok i have been trying to get opinions on how much (what %) of muscle do you retain when you come off cycle, now i know that is a pretty wide open question so lets narrow it down some. lets say a person who has ran several cycles runs a bulk cycle typical 1 lets say, dbol for 4 weeks, test 500 mg a week for 12 weeks, eating good and training hard. pct is done properly training continues and so does the nutrition what do you think you keep? i say 75% muscle fibers are torn and repair grow and that does not go away, now if you stop training or get hurt you atrophy but once you start training again you should rapidly plump back up muscle memory and all that. thanks for your time

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    All of my pre-cycle fat turns into muscle...and after cycle my gains turn back into fat....it's a vicious cycle.

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    all of my pre-cycle fat turns into muscle...and after cycle my gains turn back into fat....it's a vicious cycle.
    you are a ass lol

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    The term "muscle memory" is not correct, but you guys get the point here. Coming off gear means losing size, no question. After restoring HTPA and training, eating & resting like a natty guy, the muscle that was bigger (stretched fascia) has the affinity to hold more blood/water and in turn return to the "on gear size" of maybe 50% (just an estimate).

    I know from my cycle days I could drop allot of weight, but reveal some popping out muscles that only "go away" from lack of use/training.
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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    Originally Posted by ken View Post
    you are a ass lol
    See what happens when you make friends around here?
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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    See what happens when you make friends around here?
    who said popeye was my friend? lol

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    I'm now down 6lbs since the second week in December.

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    Originally Posted by IWannaGetBig View Post
    I'm now down 6lbs since the second week in December.
    Then you are eating and resting properly. Nice job IWGB!!!

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    After my 1st 3 month cycle of a dbol kickstart and test c for 3 months I gained 15lbs. It has been 3 weeks since being off and I seem to have lost about half of that in water weight but my strength is still improving. The cycle was not the greatest because I was sick 3 different times due to starting a new job working with sick kids. Even though I did not retain the mass I would have liked to, the strength I got from it and am retaining is amazing!

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    Problbly going to get flamed on this one. IMO, if you have reached your natural max and you run test / DBol only, within weeks of ending your cycle you will lose your gains. If were not at you natural max precucle you will keep the diffrance.

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    how much size do you keep???

    Originally Posted by grind4it View Post
    Problbly going to get flamed on this one. IMO, if you have reached your natural max and you run test / DBol only, within weeks of ending your cycle you will lose your gains. If were not at you natural max precucle you will keep the diffrance.
    You say test/dbol ONLY. Are u suggesting other compounds may give more lasting gains??

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    What i am saying is test and dbol both swell exsiting cells. Yes, IMO some compounds do.

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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    About seven inches.


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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    It's weird but after every cycle and pct I've kept all the weight but I notice a difference in body composition...maybe that is just me. I always tell people that you can keep your gains but you have to eat so much more but then I get fat
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    Re: how much size do you keep???

    ^^^ with u there ... I keep my weight but get fluffy
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