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    Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    I'm pretty sure I know the answer but, wanted to explain where I'm coming from. I'm thinking after my next bulking blast (NPP/TPP/Dbol), I will come back down to my test cruise and then thinking to run primobolan and adjust my diet to go in a caloric deficit to start cutting BF. Now, I don't like doing cardio because I get tired quickly. Though the major new issue is that I had an MRI done on my back and I have disc bulges that get irritated when I run and in various exercises so my chiropractor told me to avoid running, speed walking is fine, and she doesn't want me to land on the concrete hard so I guess no jumping.

    Would I not see any reduction in BF if I went into the caloric deficit and instead of doing cardio (not hardcore cardio but, just speed walking on a treadmill is fine) and was lifting like normal, like I am now. Would I see any benefits? Would it be worth it to do this? Or maybe instead of lifting heavy, I go low on the weight and higher reps, will that count as cardio? I want to continue lifting and not have to do the usual cardio. Or will that be pointless? Since I'm in a caloric deficit I'm not getting my protein etc. so lifting is not going to do me any good?

    Lastly, is there a certain weight that I should reach before I start cutting? Right now I'm 170 and I was at 15% BF last summer, so it's been a while since I've checked, need to retest so I really hate how my belly looks bloated sometimes, usually later in the evenings once I've been eating throughout the day. So, I really want to focus on getting this slimmed down after the next blast. When I measure it, I think my stomach is 35.5". Also, I would like to see more definition so another reason I wanted to cut but, thing is that let's just say on the low end I gain 10 pounds on this next blast, so lets' say I'm at 180 lbs. is it worth it for me to cut at this weight? Or should I wait until I get higher like 200 or something?

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    You can cut without doing cardio, but that means being very strict with your diet. By strict I mean Cashout strict. This means no junk at all!!!!! You'll need to find out your daily calorie requirement & drop into a calorie defict.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    I knew a guy that hated cardio and read somewhere about cold water submersion......basically burning calories by shivering. He filled up his bath tub with cold water and just about gave himself hypothermia. He decided real quick that cardio wasn t so bad.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    In a nutshell, NO, you don't need to do cardio to drop bodyfat.

    In my years, even when preping for shows, I've done almost no direct cardio work.

    You will cut body fat as long as you have fewer calories in your body than you burn. Period.

    You can do it two ways - 1) burn more calories by increasing activity (i.e. cardio) or 2) consume few calories.

    I've always thought it easier to eat less than to do more work. That is the shortest path to the objective IMO.

    DF is right, if you are going to follow my plan, you better be prepared to be totally committed to the goal. That is where most guys fail.

    So, be prepared for this all day err day!

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    just a matter of less cals coming in than going out. if you do that you will lose weight/BF.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Originally Posted by Cashout View Post
    In a nutshell, NO, you don't need to do cardio to drop bodyfat.

    In my years, even when preping for shows, I've done almost no direct cardio work.

    You will cut body fat as long as you have fewer calories in your body than you burn. Period.

    I am used to getting Cash Boner, this time I got boner looking at his food. (slight homo)

    You can do it two ways - 1) burn more calories by increasing activity (i.e. cardio) or 2) consume few calories.

    I've always thought it easier to eat less than to do more work. That is the shortest path to the objective IMO.

    DF is right, if you are going to follow my plan, you better be prepared to be totally committed to the goal. That is where most guys fail.

    So, be prepared for this all day err day!

    9 oz shredded chicken breast
    1 cup cooked rice
    1 medium cored apple
    20 oz water

    I am used to getting Cash Boner, this time I got boner looking at his food. (slight homo)
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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    That's so true. I competed in a Masters competion without doing cardio. I think I got pretty shredded, although I did take Xenadrine.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    PFM - I aim to please and I'm glad I was able to follow through yet again!

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Here's a pic from that show. This was before ever using anything but over the counter pro-hormones and xenadrine.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Awesome replies.

    I have to watch my diet regardless because I have pre-diabetes so cheating for me isn't just a weight thing, it's a major health issue. Not to say I still don't cheat still at times but, I still try to find the least harmful option. Anyway after all I've been eating lately, every 2 hrs etc. I'll be glad to be able to eat less for a while.

    @ Cashout - do you modify your weight training when you cut? Or you do the same like you posted your routine before?

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    I am used to getting Cash Boner, this time I got boner looking at his food. (slight homo)
    ....funny. I got that too.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Dinitrophenol 2,4
    I've grown up some.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    I was eating white meat fish,chicken breast, egg whites, and Isolated whey for protein. > Yams for carbs> Steamed veggies. I cut out protein bars.
    I eventually got down to a 1/4 of a yam per meal, during carb depletion.
    As well, I was taking a Tbsp. of Flax oil every 3 hours.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Originally Posted by username1 View Post

    @ Cashout - do you modify your weight training when you cut? Or you do the same like you posted your routine before?
    No - my training remains consistent regardless of cutting or dieting.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Originally Posted by biggerben692000 View Post
    Dinitrophenol 2,4
    Username1 - If you have pre-diabetes and pre-existing health concerns DO NOT TOUCH THIS GARBAGE ^^^^

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Username1 how does your back
    Feel on the stationary bike?
    Have you tried the bike? It's low
    impact And it's all I ever do for cardio.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Actually that's great you brought that up, I haven't done the stationary bike recently but, I don't mind riding a bike at all so that's a good option for me to do. Also the chiropractor said it was ok for me to ride the stationary bike and also elliptical. I've done the elliptical and not really have any problems with that either.

    Originally Posted by JAXNY View Post
    Username1 how does your back
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    Have you tried the bike? It's low
    impact And it's all I ever do for cardio.

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Just run tren lol

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    Maybe I'll try that now. Maybe for the summer. Back then, I had never done anything. The prohormones were potent. They are all banned now, probably because they actually worked. My avatar pic is from the same group of photos.



    Originally Posted by coltmc4545 View Post
    Just run tren lol

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    Re: Cardio absolutely necessary to reduce bodyfat?

    User there is lots of different cardio you could do that wont affect your back....maybe Im worng but I finf even a little bit of cardio is better to cut than no cardio. you wont have to go crazy

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