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    Guys,

    My SHBG levels are starting to creep up again. Last blood test had SHBG at 40. Six months ago it was 32, 6 months before that 18.

    I got it down to 18 with the help of CHip from Maximus and Winny V. I cant get my hands on Winny any more.

    My new doc put me on Bromocriptine for 6 months but that didnt do anything.

    Where do I go from here? Any other advice on how to lower SHBG ?

    Thanks
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    Re: need SHBG help

    What about proviron or masteron?
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    Re: need SHBG help

    If you want to stay with meds your doc writes a script for go with danazol. Most TRT docs will prescribe no problem for the purpose of lowering SHBG.
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    Re: need SHBG help

    Originally Posted by Spongy View Post
    If you want to stay with meds your doc writes a script for go with danazol. Most TRT docs will prescribe no problem for the purpose of lowering SHBG.
    Does that actually work? And can you stay on it?
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    Re: need SHBG help

    Yea what spongy said. Masteron lowers it to but that would only be a temp fix. As men get older shbg tends to rise anyway. Its decreases with high levels of insulin, growth hormone, insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1), androgens, prolactin and transcortin. So trying any of these could also help lower it. High estrogen, and thyroxine cause it to increase. So make sure e isn't high. Also be aware that many sites produce shbg. The liver mostly but so does the brain and ball bag.

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    Re: need SHBG help

    Juuced, what is your current HRT protocol?

    I ask b/c a lot of times this can be addressed by fine tuning the existing protocol without the need to add additional drugs.

    When I see guys with increasing SHBG this is typically indicative of supra- physiological levels of test in the systems.

    What are your other blood test results? Total T, Free T?

    How about other markers? CBC numbers?

    Other markers you may have pulled in the last draw?





    Originally Posted by juuced View Post
    Guys,

    My SHBG levels are starting to creep up again. Last blood test had SHBG at 40. Six months ago it was 32, 6 months before that 18.

    I got it down to 18 with the help of CHip from Maximus and Winny V. I cant get my hands on Winny any more.

    My new doc put me on Bromocriptine for 6 months but that didnt do anything.

    Where do I go from here? Any other advice on how to lower SHBG ?

    Thanks

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    Re: need SHBG help

    Thanks for all the replies guys.

    Cashout here is more bloodwork results:

    Progesterone 0.79 ng/ml
    Estradiol 30.9 pg/ml
    Test , total 1005 ng/dl
    Test, free 18.04 ng/dl
    SHBG 40
    IGF-1 191

    CBC
    white blood cell 5.6
    red blood cell 5.26
    hemoglobin 15.4
    hematocrit 46.5
    MCV 88
    MCH 29.3
    MCHC 33.1
    RDW 16.2
    Platelet count 155
    MPV 11.1

    current TRT protocol= 100mg test cyp twice a week monday and thurs injections, anastrozole 1mg/week.
    I did a 10week long blast 3 months ago of test cyp 500mg/week
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    Re: need SHBG help

    Originally Posted by juuced View Post
    Thanks for all the replies guys.

    Cashout here is more bloodwork results:

    Progesterone 0.79 ng/ml
    Estradiol 30.9 pg/ml
    Test , total 1005 ng/dl
    Test, free 18.04 ng/dl
    SHBG 40
    IGF-1 191

    CBC
    white blood cell 5.6
    red blood cell 5.26
    hemoglobin 15.4
    hematocrit 46.5
    MCV 88
    MCH 29.3
    MCHC 33.1
    RDW 16.2
    Platelet count 155
    MPV 11.1

    current TRT protocol= 100mg test cyp twice a week monday and thurs injections, anastrozole 1mg/week.
    I did a 10week long blast 3 months ago of test cyp 500mg/week
    All your numbers look great.
    SHGB does have a proportional relationship with test so you are maintaining a test level at the upper bound of the range. It also seems your body is compensating accordingly with SHGB.

    Not sure of your age but for a 42 year old male (me) if memory serves me correctly is the 95% confidence interval range is between 15-50. I notice that it doubled from 18 to 32 pre-blast. I am wondering if 18 was a artificially low SHGB for you from the use of winny. Did you have a number for SHGB prior to go on the winny? What was it pre-winny? It may be an effect from the artificially low SHGB from the Winny followed by the supra-physiological test levels from the blast. Unless you are experiencing symptoms, if it were me, I wouldn't jump the gun on adding a DHT-derivative in just to suppress the SHGB. I'd wait for another 6 months to see if it rebounds downward or stabilizes.

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    Re: need SHBG help

    I am 44 yrs old Cashout. yes the SHBG of 18 was a result of the Winny. The number prior to the Winny was 32. Its funny it was 32 6 months prior to Winny then it was back up to 32 again 6month post Winny.

    I have been having weak erections as my symptoms. no problem getting erections but alot of the time ill go limp a few minutes into sexual relations. Which really pisses off my woman. this has just been a recent thing within the last month.
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    Re: need SHBG help

    Got it. Yeah. I'd let this go for a little while because I bet you gravitate back to 32 over the next couple of months. 30ish is likely your body's equilibrium for 1000ng/dl total number.

    Originally Posted by juuced View Post
    I am 44 yrs old Cashout. yes the SHBG of 18 was a result of the Winny. The number prior to the Winny was 32. Its funny it was 32 6 months prior to Winny then it was back up to 32 again 6month post Winny.

    I have been having weak erections as my symptoms. no problem getting erections but alot of the time ill go limp a few minutes into sexual relations. Which really pisses off my woman. this has just been a recent thing within the last month.

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