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I've just spent four weeks skiing in Canada and am back lurking, occasionally thinking I can add some value and commenting. (I took my TRT to Canada, left everything else at home - HGH and Var.)
The normal belief is that T on its own won't cause weight loss, muscle gain etc, that you need to exercise right, eat well - and that T is the last 10% of the puzzle. I'm not sure any more that's the case. I think that T on its own has the potential to do heaps.
For those who don't know I'm the resident old bastard (now 62) and I've been on TRT for a year and a bit. Until I got it dialled in it was a bit all over the place, now I know that for me to beat the depression ogre I need levels of around 1300 on the US scale. I've tried a few times to dial in at about 800, and depression pops up, so screw it. I figure I was over the top most of my life as I've never been able to meet any female without immediately trying to figure out how to get her into bed. (Humans only.)
So my T levels are, and have been for eight or nine months, consistently just above the so-called "normal" range.
Yes, I exercise often, but honestly? I don't really do that much, particularly compared to most of you guys. I have been fit all my life, have been mildly fat (peaked at about 33% a couple of years ago) but have dropped a fair bit of BF% over the last year. And I honestly think that T has been by far the biggest single component in dropping fat.
And I am getting fucking lean. Without trying. Which is pretty cool. And strong. Without putting in much of the hard work.
No, it doesn't really show up in pics yet, but I swear I did see an ab the other day.
This fits in with the research done early last decade (?) where random guys on 600GM T, doing zero extra exercise, dropped fat - and put on major muscle.
Interesting.
The normal belief is that T on its own won't cause weight loss, muscle gain etc, that you need to exercise right, eat well - and that T is the last 10% of the puzzle. I'm not sure any more that's the case. I think that T on its own has the potential to do heaps.
For those who don't know I'm the resident old bastard (now 62) and I've been on TRT for a year and a bit. Until I got it dialled in it was a bit all over the place, now I know that for me to beat the depression ogre I need levels of around 1300 on the US scale. I've tried a few times to dial in at about 800, and depression pops up, so screw it. I figure I was over the top most of my life as I've never been able to meet any female without immediately trying to figure out how to get her into bed. (Humans only.)
So my T levels are, and have been for eight or nine months, consistently just above the so-called "normal" range.
Yes, I exercise often, but honestly? I don't really do that much, particularly compared to most of you guys. I have been fit all my life, have been mildly fat (peaked at about 33% a couple of years ago) but have dropped a fair bit of BF% over the last year. And I honestly think that T has been by far the biggest single component in dropping fat.
And I am getting fucking lean. Without trying. Which is pretty cool. And strong. Without putting in much of the hard work.
No, it doesn't really show up in pics yet, but I swear I did see an ab the other day.
This fits in with the research done early last decade (?) where random guys on 600GM T, doing zero extra exercise, dropped fat - and put on major muscle.
Interesting.