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    tren cycle advice

    ok ill make this short and sweet. First "tren" cycle. Tren e and test e. I know i should start with tren a but its all i could get my hands on so im going in regardless with the e. With that said my current plan is tren e 300 a week with test e at 200 a week. I have caber and aro to take during and need some help on the dosing along with clomid for my pct. I know others have said hcg but i cant seem to get my hands on it. Any suggestions to this cycle.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    I failed to mention i was originally going for a twelve week cycle. twelve test and 10 tren with running the test an extra two weeks. I do have some extra test e so i was thinking of starting up the test e two weeks earlier for a total of 14 weeks test 3.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    >CABERGOLINE (Dostinex) ***8211; Caber is a very potent Dopamine Agonist. It acts on dopamine receptors in the hypothalamus to suppress prolactin production in the pituitary gland. It is used for Hyperprolactinemia. (elevated levels of prolactin in blood) It is also used in treatment of Parkinsons Disease. Now Ill get deeper into what the hell all that means a little further on.

    >Half Life = 63-69 Hours. So I recommend to take Caber every third day. That***8217;s at the far end of the range of its half life. Though this is what the dosing is for patients and studies that have been done and it works just fine. If you***8217;re a stickler for dosing everything correctly I would obviously dose it every 2 and days.

    >Taking your dose of Caber before bed. (with or without food) will minimize your experience of sides.

    - Documented Sides***8211; (bad sides) Fatigue, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, headache, slightly abnormal vision, hot flashes. Now before you get all scared and think oh I cant take this. These sides were mostly reported when taking higher doses (1g+ a week) then we will be taking for our cycles. Also Caber has been found in some instances to increase the affects of Depression Medication. Word to the wise for those members using said meds.

    -Other Sides- (good sides) I have not come across any scientific studies documenting them but many users have reported are***8230;Increased Sex Drive, Stronger Erections, More Powerful Orgasms, Taking Less Time to Achieve A Full Erection after Ejactulation. And I will attest to the fact that those sides do happen. I have experienced all the ***8220;good sides***8221; first hand. Also I have not experienced any of the ***8220;bad sides***8221; ever.

    There are even ppl who have been taking Caber only for the specific reason of the sexual sides. Now I of course do not condone this and would only recommend using Caber in conjuction with an AAS cycle.

    -Another big thing I have heard members cry about as a reason not to take Caber, is that it has been found to cause Heart Valve Damage. This is true but as I stated earlier, only at a lot higher doses (3mg/per day!!) then we will be using. So stop whining.

    -If for some reason you are prone to sides for any and everything, reducing your dose, while continuing the Caber will improve the severity of the sides. So basically if you experience a slight amount of sides at any given dose. Lower your dose until the sides fade but don***8217;t stop using the caber! I would prefer some of the lesser sides of Caber to those of tren and deca any day.

    How much Caber to use and when?
    I prefer to use Caber while running any 19-Nor. (tren, deca) They affect the thyroid by lowering it (hypothyroidism) which causes the body to release more prolactin in the blood stream. (note- an overactive thyroid can cause elevated prolactin levels also) Prolactin at high levels has the affect of lowering sex drive and causing erectile dysfunction. We call it deca and fina ****. And from first hand experience, deca **** is not fun!! tren is also a Progestin, it bonds to the receptor of the female sex hormone Progesterone. Which is responsible for preparing the body for milk production. I.E. By raising prolactin. So in order to avoid all that. Its best to run Caber from the very beginning of the cycle. I even prefer to run it into PCT for an extra boost.

    STARTING DOSE ***8211; Beginning dose of Caber for use on cycle would be .25mg taken twice a week. For a total of .50 mg a week. Notice the point in front of the 25. Its not 25mg!! Its .25mg
    This dose is usually enough for an 8 week tren cycle. If your prone to sides, running deca/tren E, or just running the tren A longer. Then take the .50 mg/per week for 4 weeks and then bump it up another .25mg a week. For a total of .75mg per week. If sides from the gear are very bad, you can even bump it up to a total of 1mg a week. You can continue to up your dose (only if your experiencing sides from tren/deca) of the Caber every 4 weeks until you have reached a maximum dose of 1mg twice a week or 2mg per week. But there is no reason to go no where near that high. If your still experiencing sides at 1mg/per week then your Caber is bunk or there is more serious underlying causes at work.
    I was taking .5mg/p/w of Caber during a cycle with high doses of tren. I actually didn***8217;t have any fina **** problems but I did start Lactating! Yes my nipples were leaking. (its called Galactorrhea = lactation in the absence of nursing) lol So then I bumped up my dose to .50mg at 2 times a week (1mg/week) and the milk juice went away within a week. Other then that, I have had no problems and nothing but good experiences while taking Caber.

    Now to give you an idea of the doses that are being taken by Parkinsons Disease and other Patients,
    ***8226; Parkinson's disease: Monotherapy: Initial dose should be 0.5 mg daily. The usual maintenance dose is 2 to 4 mg daily. Combination therapy: Usually 2 to 6 mg daily.
    ***8226; Tumors of the pituitary gland and other hyperprolactinemic conditions: Initially 0.5 mg per week, slowly titrated to 4.5 mg per week, if necessary.


    Literally took me 10 seconds to google that.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Dosing for aromasin is at 12.5mg ed for the duratino of cycle and pct. With that being said, you're running low test, but Id still have the aromasin and run it as usual.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Clomid/Nolva/DAA for PCT starting 10 days after your last test pin.

    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA= Natty test booster that actually works.

    Run the aromasin while on at 12.5 mg/eod and run the Caber at .5mg 2x per week.

    Running the tren for 12 and the test for 14 weeks will be just fine brother.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    I would run the test higher than the tren.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    that seems to be the debate.....test or tren higher and doses?

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Im running my tren higher as we speak, just started, but if you wait a couple weeks will let you know. Test is at 350, tren at 600

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Originally Posted by tiny123 View Post
    that seems to be the debate.....test or tren higher and doses?
    Yes people are starting to run this more it seems all over the boards. And from the countless posts Ive read everywhere they are seeing better results with alot less sides. But once again everyone is different.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    I always run my test higher than tren and if I was you I would start at 200 a week of tren just in the beginning to see how your going to react to it. With that long ester your screwed for a bit if you have bad sides. I always run caber and aroma the way vette said and its worked perfect every time. Also I would do as vette said and run 12-14. Good luck bro

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    tren cycle advice

    Test 500 tren 600 . Both enanthate ester. On week three. Caber twice a week and adjusting adex as needed. The only thing that's kicked in so far is tren's cardio enhancement. It takes a little of the wind out of your sails but not too bad!
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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Tren 750 and test 400 week five... was sick for three of those. Also running caber 2x week, aromasin 12.5 mg eod, proviron 50mg ed, and dbol 40 mg ed.

    Best cycle I have had in quite some while.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Originally Posted by 63Vette View Post
    Tren 750 and test 400 week five... was sick for three of those. Also running caber 2x week, aromasin 12.5 mg eod, proviron 50mg ed, and dbol 40 mg ed.

    Best cycle I have had in quite some while.

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    I love proviron, its the bomb when it comes to feeling good. Im also doing 50mg a day.
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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Ohhhhh love tren!! 23 days till I join ya
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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Originally Posted by Four1Thr33 View Post
    Ohhhhh love tren!! 23 days till I join ya
    Werd...I do not see myself leaving tren out of any cycles for a long while. I have no interest in other compounds as I aromatize heavily and hate water. Tren is awesome.

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    Re: tren cycle advice

    Test c,tren a, mast p, and var to finish
    Start April 1st and end most likely 15weeeks later
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