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    Pops Spring Cycle....

    Well I've decided to join BB on the fun of test/ deca/ dbol, starting around Fool's Day. Anyway here's the plan.....


    Test E 750mg week 1-14


    Deca 500mg...........1-12


    Dbol 60mg..............1-4


    Var 75mg...............9-15



    Gonna start HCG 500 ius a week a couple weeks in and for the entirety of cycle, as well as blast before PCT 1000iu eod for ten days, waiting a couple days before SERM therapy begins.

    Aromasin 12.5 ed after the first week or so, and obviously adjust from there for e2 control.

    I've never run a 19nor but I know I'm gonna need Caber .5mg 2Xweek for prolactin control.

    PCT will consist of Clomid 100/100/50/50, Nolvadex 40/40/20/20, and 12.5mg eod of Aromasin. I also use Erase2, don't know if it helps or not (def not buying it....previous purchase)...i know, i know.....catchy ads.....ya gotta give em that.

    Also...I'm starting with NPP to gauge sides first with deca, and also gonna be converting to Test Prop at the end to allow quicker recovery between cycle end and PCT.

    One question I have is the Nolvadex with the 19nor, I don't feel its a problem as long as I give time for the deca to clear out of my system before introducing the Nolva.....since both together can supposedly cause negative effects with prolactin. Any thoughts on this subject? Also on possibly extending PCT dosages another week because of the deca?

    I'm sure I'm missing something here.....so any advice or questions will help....thanks dudes.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    looks good. Ive only used npp once and it was 6wks so i let other comment on the 19-nor issues.

    if you want to go 5wks on the serms thats fine. id just keep the doses low. id be blasting the hcg right up til you begin the serms tho.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    you got your shit together

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    Pops Spring Cycle....

    Can someone please tell me why nolva plus 19-nors is somehow bad?

    Other than that pops, you might consider running the pct up to 6 weeks to ensure a better recovery. Deca is tough to rebound from.
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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Extend the PCT to 5 or six weeks and run the Caber though PCT if you wish. You have it ready to go and I have never heard of a problem using Nolva post 19 nor but I am out of the PCT game.

    The ONLY thing that worries me a little is the 100mg of clomid. That's a lot brother. If you start having vision problems from it drop it to 5o ASAP.

    I hope you have a GREAT run brother.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by gymrat827 View Post
    looks good. Ive only used npp once and it was 6wks so i let other comment on the 19-nor issues.

    if you want to go 5wks on the serms thats fine. id just keep the doses low. id be blasting the hcg right up til you begin the serms tho.
    Thanks for the input GR
    Originally Posted by ken View Post
    you got your shit together
    I actually just copy and pasted the whole post....I'm clueless
    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Can someone please tell me why nolva plus 19-nors is somehow bad?

    Other than that pops, you might consider running the pct up to 6 weeks to ensure a better recovery. Deca is tough to rebound from.
    Thanks PaB, I don't see a problem with it but I've had heated arguments with guys about this, and a very well respected long-time member of the boards advised against it. Since then, I've questioned it. That's why I included it in my plan, but still asked......

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by 63Vette View Post
    Extend the PCT to 5 or six weeks and run the Caber though PCT if you wish. You have it ready to go and I have never heard of a problem using Nolva post 19 nor but I am out of the PCT game.

    The ONLY thing that worries me a little is the 100mg of clomid. That's a lot brother. If you start having vision problems from it drop it to 5o ASAP.

    I hope you have a GREAT run brother.

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    Thanks Vette, I will extend the PCT like you guys are suggesting. I have used 100mg clomid without issues.

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    Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Thanks for the input GR

    I actually just copy and pasted the whole post....I'm clueless

    Thanks PaB, I don't see a problem with it but I've had heated arguments with guys about this, and a very well respected long-time member of the boards advised against it. Since then, I've questioned it. That's why I included it in my plan, but still asked......
    I've known plenty of long time well respected members of the boards who are actually idiots and don't even lift.

    You need more proof than that. "Because I say so" is never enough.
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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    I've known plenty of long time well respected members of the boards who are actually idiots and don't even lift.

    You need more proof than that. "Because I say so" is never enough.
    If you say so.....

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Can someone please tell me why nolva plus 19-nors is somehow bad?

    Other than that pops, you might consider running the pct up to 6 weeks to ensure a better recovery. Deca is tough to rebound from.
    Not in pct but on cycle. It makes your progesterone receptors more sensitive. That's all. Really it's nothing.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by BigHerm View Post
    Not in pct but on cycle. It makes your progesterone receptors more sensitive. That's all. Really it's nothing.
    Great point Herm, thanks, I wasn't factoring in the nolvadex on cycle to battle gyno if needed......:-?

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    But you say its not really that bad?

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Yeah dude in pct it's fine to run nolva. On cycle for gyno nolva is said to make your progesterone more sensitive. So pretty much it's the prolactin sides. As long as you have caber and your e is in check you shouldn't have prolactin issues.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    I'd like to point out: Guys were running these compounds long before all this Nolva and Caber or any AI, SERM's were readily available.

    Just saying.
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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    & Erase works. IDK how well compared to Asin or Adex but it is a AI.
    It def works tho.
    Bunch of slack-jawed fagg0ts around here. This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    I'd like to point out: Guys were running these compounds long before all this Nolva and Caber or any AI, SERM's were readily available.

    Just saying.
    Thanks....Very true mike....spoken like a true antique.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by SuperBane View Post
    & Erase works. IDK how well compared to Asin or Adex but it is a AI.
    It def works tho.
    Ya thanks,....I guess it can't hurt right? I already have it and it sure sounds good on paper.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    ive never had any issues running 100mg of clomid. Erase is a decent supp. id use it alongside what other AI you ll be using.

    It also supresses cortisol.

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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Thanks....Very true mike....spoken like a true antique.
    Thanks PopArms.
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    Re: Pops Spring Cycle....

    Def got your stuff together Pops, I can't wait for those progress pics!

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