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    Completely Shut down..

    I have been on my PCT for 3 weeks now, waiting 18 days after last injection, using clomid 50/50/50/50 after 12 week test E cycle and Deca. I ordered Nolva a few weeks after my first order and it plain and simple never arrived. Source gone and everything. I don't know what to do? I am looking for another nolva source but its been difficult. Please give me some advice.

    I HAVENT HAD A HARD ON FOR 2 WEEKS!! I don't think the clomid is doing it by itself and i dont want to be struggling for another six months! i am in college, time is of the essence

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    So you ran Nanadrone Decantonate (Deca)? That can take 4-6 weeks after the last injection to clear your system enough to start PCT. The Decantonate ester is one of the slowest-clearing esters of all, it clears significantly more slowly than Enanthate. You should have stopped the Deca a few weeks before the test e for them to clear at the same time. So it sounds like you may have started PCT while still having too high of levels of Deca in your system for it to do anything. And actually, 18 days waiting with test E, you might not have given that enough time to clear either.

    I'd say you might want to extend your PCT to 6 weeks to make sure you're getting the full benefits of your SERMS AFTER the anabolics have cleared your system. Add some Nolva starting now.

    Also you probably should have run HCG during your cycle, or at least blasted it afterwards, to make your recovery faster and easier.

    To find Nolva or Clomid, if you need them only for research purposes, you can look at the board sponsor, Manpower. They can have it to you in 3 days.

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    If you have any way to find HCG, it might benefit you to blast it for a week or two before you resume PCT. I've never run deca myself, hopefully some of these guys with more experience can give you some good advice.

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Have you done any blood work to know where you are? What you think is completely shut down might be an estro issue.

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    Completely Shut down..

    Originally Posted by Big Worm View Post
    Have you done any blood work to know where you are? What you think is completely shut down might be an estro issue.
    Yup....


    Go to board sponsor manpower research. Get the clomiphene and tamoxifen there.

    ATTN NOOBS: this is why you don't run deca and or tren in your first couple cycles. It is, by its nature very difficult to recover from for most people.
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    Rest in Peace Robot Lord. First round of Natty Boh is on me when I make it up there with you brother.

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    ill go ahead and say it also....
    I keep viagra.... in stock. for those times when im jammed on a situation. never been shut down but.... keep my bases checked.


    as stated above.

    good luck with the deca dick issue.

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    btw.... just looking at my gear I get a hard on.

    / end useless post

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Agree with BigWorm: get bloods done. Good chance your estro is through the roof. if you have a sudden desire to watch the Lifetime channel for hours on end, this also counts as proof.

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    LOL thank you for advice. I failed to mention i DID stop deca 2 weeks before Test. I had everything under control until i got duped. I will get bloods done ASAP. Quick Question: Am i running Nolva 40/40/40? Make PCT how much longer? I assume every person is different but a general guideline would be great. Thank you for all your help and not flaming me, toooo bad...

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Yup....


    Go to board sponsor manpower research. Get the clomiphene and tamoxifen there.

    ATTN NOOBS: this is why you don't run deca and or tren in your first couple cycles. It is, by its nature very difficult to recover from for most people.
    Is clomiphene the same as clomid? i ordered tamoxifen, how should i run it?

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    Completely Shut down..

    Originally Posted by I bench 135x5 View Post
    Is clomiphene the same as clomid? i ordered tamoxifen, how should i run it?
    Yes clomid is clomiphene

    100mg per day for one week then 3 weeks of 50mg

    Tamoxifen at 40mg per day for 4 weeks

    Then get blood work
    "Overzealous dosing" -Jin

    Rest in Peace Robot Lord. First round of Natty Boh is on me when I make it up there with you brother.

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    ok thank you. i will post the bloodwork on here and we'll go from there.
    EDIT: Even though ive been on clomid for 3 weeks already. i should start immediately at 100mg/ and so forth..

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    I hope u got yiur bench up to at least 155 on deca for 6 reps lol
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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Originally Posted by Four1Thr33 View Post
    I hope u got yiur bench up to at least 155 on deca for 6 reps lol
    Dude have you ever tried 155 x 6 reps? This isn't MR. Olympia.

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Originally Posted by I bench 135x5 View Post
    Dude have you ever tried 155 x 6 reps? This isn't MR. Olympia.
    Glad to see you still have your sense of humor... I hope...

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Haha I remember the day before I joined the marines I couldn't bench 115 without help
    Now that's a ****in joke
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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    Originally Posted by Four1Thr33 View Post
    Haha I remember the day before I joined the marines I couldn't bench 115 without help
    Now that's a ****in joke
    That is LOL. Do you need some help? i could get you to 135 no problem..

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    325 max now ... Figured it out
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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    135 is the new 325

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    Re: Completely Shut down..

    In all seriousness now. How should i blast my HCG? 500iu e/d for a week?

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