2nd Cycle Prep

StoliFTW

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Wanting to start my 2nd Cycle tomorrow and just checking whether you bros see something wrong/have suggestions.

Week 1-12 Test E @ 500mg/week
Week 9-12 Var @ 50mg

HCG Protocol
Week 4-13 HCG 250iu E3D
Week 14 HCG 250iu EOD
Week 15 HCG 500iu EOD

PCT
Week 16-17 Clomid 100 ED
Week 16-17 Nolva 40 ED
Week 18-19 Clomid 50
Week 18-19 Nolva 20

or

Week 16 Torem 120
Week 17 Torem 90
Week 18 Torem 60
Week 19 Torem 30


Looking forward to this one. I have everything mapped out on Excel, dosages, dates, etc etc. Planning is key IMO.
 

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forgot to add Aromasin @ 25mg E3D
 

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I'd run the var for longer than 3 weeks...6 at least.
 

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i would love to but only have 1500mg of var - that's 30 days...
 

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Everything else seems ok....100mg clomid is alot and can fuck with your vision. It is not really necessary on 500/week of test. With that said ...I can handle 100mg clomid just fine though....some cant.
 

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guess i can always get more var since its towards the end of the cycle anyways..
 

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I ran a similiar first cycle with 6 weeks of Var at the end. Very good for strength and lean gains. Youll fall in love wih var!
 

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Cool thanks for the info guys. I'll get me some more var and will run it for 6 weeks.

Probably gonna run the torem for pct...
 

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up the test 500 is cool but it gets way better
 

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My test is 275/mg so 550/week would make it easier to measure. Or were you thinking more like 600-700ish? My last cycle was 500 for 10 weeks.
 

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My test is 275/mg so 550/week would make it easier to measure. Or were you thinking more like 600-700ish? My last cycle was 500 for 10 weeks.

atleast 600mg but its up to you
 

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yeh, dont see a reason why i wouldnt do that. spasibo :D
 

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get more var. Id start in the wk 1 too. The E will need a bit to get going. The var will work wayyy faster. just something to think about.
 

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yeh definately something to think about. no harm in starting the var in week 2 is there? Cause Saturday will be week 2 for me
 

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Im with a lot of the answers here.

Dont waste your money running var only 3 weeks, its a total waste and var is pricey. I also wouldnt run var personally less than 75mg a day, in split doses. Watch your good cholesterol on var, it can and will fuck it up.

Id run the test between 600-750 a week for the duration. And homie is right, test e takes some time to kick in.

I also might bump the hcg up to 500iu mon and thursday, instead of e3d. So you are rocking 1000iu a week through your cycle.

Far as your pct, i like running nolva with clomid, but you can run torem solo with the cycle you have planned out and should be fine. Just a heads up though, some guys claim to be complete non responders to torem, so if this is your first rodeo with it you will want a back up just in case.

If you run the clomid, popeye is spot on about the vision problems, some dont get it and its not widely known. Most guys complain about crying during commercials and shit thats emotional.

Anyway, just a few thoughts there, hope you get something out of it.
 

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Yes, clomid will have you crying in the dark while watching the lifetime channel.
 

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my initial var layout was for 4 weeks, but listening to my bros here I'm gonna get more var and run 6 weeks at the end.Even though I can see why running var would be good at the beginning to. What's your preference - use Var in the beginning to build strength level up, or at the end of cycle? my first cycle was test e only so i know it takes some time to kick in. No biggie there.

Goddman Bravo your avi is f*cking irritating me.
 

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Id run the var in the beginning bro, and make it count.
 

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gracias mr. g killa, like seeing your posts man or i should specify you avi ... thanks again. looking forward to the var
 

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Her ass does seem to give me a lot more credibility.


His wife has a hot ass, he HAS to know what hes doing.
 
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