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    tren non-responder?

    Hey folks ive got a client going on weeek 3 of tren and is having absolutedly zero sides or benefits from it. I know his product is legit because its from the same lab I used for my tren run with great results. Is there such a thing as being a non-responder?
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    I believe so, deca didn't do skeet for me.

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Originally Posted by Spongy View Post
    Hey folks ive got a client going on weeek 3 of tren and is having absolutedly zero sides or benefits from it. I know his product is legit because its from the same lab I used for my tren run with great results. Is there such a thing as being a non-responder?
    I doubt it very much!
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    I believe I had that problem with tren. And since I dropped the tren and upped my test now I'm seeing sides and benefits.

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Good tren = toxic and if you don't feel that the tren is crap.
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Not that I'm aware of. Taste the tren. Is it spicy? How much are you giving him?

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    whats his cycle history. maybe hes exhausted low dose and needs higher? if your not administrating the shots....how can u be sure he knows what hes doing ...sub Q takes longer to absorb.


    is this trenE I didnt start to feel it till week 4 in some cycles. ...tren A was on week 2. esters vary.

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Well this was my third cycle and I was doing 350 test 450 tren a for about a month didn't feel like I was on anything dropped the tren upped tpp to 600 now I'm feeling something.

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Originally Posted by dboldouggie View Post
    Well this was my third cycle and I was doing 350 test 450 tren a for about a month didn't feel like I was on anything dropped the tren upped tpp to 600 now I'm feeling something.
    Tren was garbage period bro.
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Originally Posted by SFGiants View Post
    Tren was garbage period bro.
    The tren isn't garbage and that's fact...

    He's running 200mg EOD and has ZERO effects or so he says. I think it may be early to call it Spongy, so give him a little more time. You could talk to the source too just to double check... Its definitely weird.
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    My tren I know 100% its not garbage. It just wasn't doing anything. Test @600 I feel great.

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Originally Posted by dboldouggie View Post
    I believe I had that problem with tren. And since I dropped the tren and upped my test now I'm seeing sides and benefits.
    its not about getting sides or feelings its about making gains

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    i don't have a ton of sides, and i know mine is good and working, leaning up and getting stronger, at 50mg eod, like buns says if you are getting results and no sides count your blessings

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Originally Posted by SFGiants View Post
    I doubt it very much!
    Originally Posted by SFGiants View Post
    Good tren = toxic and if you don't feel that the tren is crap.
    Originally Posted by SFGiants View Post
    Tren was garbage period bro.
    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    The tren isn't garbage and that's fact...

    He's running 200mg EOD and has ZERO effects or so he says. I think it may be early to call it Spongy, so give him a little more time. You could talk to the source too just to double check... Its definitely weird.

    Okay, everything I said and I even quoted it was me reading the title and getting pissed at how someone could cry out non responder.

    I'm just getting a tad fed up with non sense and I apologize.

    IMO there is no such thing as a tren a non responder but there are people that don't even know how to train to gain, eat to gain rest to gain and think if I inject this I'll be jacked.

    If POB and Spongy back the source then the tren isn't garbage and I apologize to that source although I have no clue who it is as we have none here on SI.

    As far as sides go we are all different and we react differently, I don't get bad sides as others do I am 44 with a full head of hair with hardly no grey, I don't get acne, I don't ever have gyno issues but I do bloat and fight high blood pressure at times.

    As far as gains goes I have never gotten any gains without overeating and my best gains was from very high a very high calorie intake.

    I'm just getting tired of people not doing research and learning this stuff and then crying bullshit.

    This is not towards Spongy but the person that decided to run tren and not even have a single clue what to do with it because that is the only reason it would seem garbage when backed by 2 people that have ran the same stuff.
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    Originally Posted by dboldouggie View Post
    My tren I know 100% its not garbage. It just wasn't doing anything. Test @600 I feel great.
    You should be good with 350mg tren a a week and 200mg test.

    You would know this if you knew what you were doing.

    350mg is standard for a 1st timer on tren and keeping test down very low on a 1st timer is very essential to learning your body and tren.

    I bet the tren was working and you just don't know it because you don't know tren at all.

    I don't even get night sweats running low test and low tren the sides don't hit hard until you jack one or the other up or both at the same time.

    We know how to keep tren sides down because we know what we are doing.
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    I'm only speaking for myself. But I have routine that I follow to the t. I eat on time and I'm at the gym everyday. I sleep 6 to 7 hours. I was not making gains from tren I was becoming more defined but that wasn't the plan. While on tren I didn't have trouble sleeping I never broke into sweats I was not super horny and I didn't feel like an animal in the gym. But now with just test at 600 I'm lifting more and I'm going crazy in there. I'm super horny and I've gained 5 pds.in 9 days. I mean I'm also eating a little dirty too but my goal is bulk

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    [QUOTE=dboldouggie;111667]I'm only speaking for myself. But I have routine that I follow to the t. I eat on time and I'm at the gym everyday. I sleep 6 to 7 hours. I was not making gains from tren I was becoming more defined but that wasn't the plan. While on tren I didn't have trouble sleeping I never broke into sweats I was not super horny and I didn't feel like an animal in the gym. But now with just test at 600 I'm lifting more and I'm going crazy in there. I'm super horny and I've gained 5 pds.in 9 days.

    Tren isnt key for bulking its more of a cutting agent

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    Re: tren non-responder?

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    Originally Posted by dboldouggie View Post
    I'm only speaking for myself. But I have routine that I follow to the t. I eat on time and I'm at the gym everyday. I sleep 6 to 7 hours. I was not making gains from tren I was becoming more defined but that wasn't the plan. While on tren I didn't have trouble sleeping I never broke into sweats I was not super horny and I didn't feel like an animal in the gym. But now with just test at 600 I'm lifting more and I'm going crazy in there. I'm super horny and I've gained 5 pds.in 9 days.

    Tren isnt key for bulking its more of a cutting agent
    Not true it's used for both and diet depending.

    This is why people are so messed up being taught shit wrong.
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    Re: tren non-responder?

    [QUOTE=SFGiants;111674]
    Originally Posted by staxs View Post

    Not true it's used for both and diet depending.

    This is why people are so messed up being taught shit wrong.
    yup. this is true. ive bulked and leaned the **** out on trenbolone replacement theraphy.
    as he said hes on a diet plan and leaning out or whatever. but
    If hes making gains and leaning....then the tren is working.

    spongy should correct the first post from tren non responder to tren no side effect user. the tren working and him not getting sides is much different than a non responder.

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    Re: tren non-responder?

    [QUOTE=staxs;111673]
    Originally Posted by dboldouggie View Post
    I'm only speaking for myself. But I have routine that I follow to the t. I eat on time and I'm at the gym everyday. I sleep 6 to 7 hours. I was not making gains from tren I was becoming more defined but that wasn't the plan. While on tren I didn't have trouble sleeping I never broke into sweats I was not super horny and I didn't feel like an animal in the gym. But now with just test at 600 I'm lifting more and I'm going crazy in there. I'm super horny and I've gained 5 pds.in 9 days.

    Tren isnt key for bulking its more of a cutting agent
    Thats what happened to me on tren ace. I have run tren ace twice and did a recomp every time and got shredded. My strength was ok, but my intensity went up. I did not gain a single pound and i ate everything in sight.

    I want to try tren e next time if i run tren again. A buddy of mine had the same issues with tren ace, he ran tren e and made great gains on it.

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