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    3rd cycle planning

    Age-33
    Weight-210-215 as of now,prolly lose it all if I actually pct
    Height- 6ft
    Diet- 75% In check but getting better, if I could make up my mind to be ripped or bulk.
    Workout- overtrain a muscle per day
    I've been training hard for 1.5 years and .5 doin p90x and learning to lift.
    Technically I'm still learning and making muscle connections.

    1st cycle- test e only, it was a very bad cycle start to finish.
    Most people wouldn't have attempted a second but I did and I'm glad cuz it's been a great adventure.
    2nd cycle (M/T)
    1-10 test E 500 a week
    1-8 tren E 250 a week
    6-10 oral winny 35 a day this only happened because i got it half off and said screw it even though it was never part of the plan.

    I'm currently ending week 8 of 2nd cycle.
    made amazing gains, Shredded, veiny, hard as a rock, came from 193 to a solid 213
    Smashed old PRs and still making new.

    Just got blood work just to see where I'm at but never got a base line. Wish I would have found out about lab corp sooner. Easy as pie.

    So lets get to the point.
    If my blood work seems like Im managing everything well,(unlikely) ill prolly cruise 4-8 week. unless my bloods say I'm gonna die then ill pct and get a baseline.

    What I want to run for my "bulk cycle"
    Test E or cyp low dose 150 ish -have either so that's gtg
    NPP doseage still in debate but thinking 4-500
    Tren A doseage still in debate but thinking 4-500

    Have adex or aromasin
    Working on caber if that can't happen ill get prami.

    Pct I have nolva clomid and enough hcg for a blast


    The opinions I'm looking for are not about cycling. Ill decide that on my own

    What I'm looking for is opinions on the compounds I list and best run times.
    Feel free to mention kicks also, I'm not opposed to it.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Hey xel , I just finished off with test cyp 500mg for 18 weeks decca 400mg for 14 weeks for bulk, really great cycle and added SIZE
    Eating ass is anabolic. .. Stick your tongue in and hold it there for 20 seconds! Wise words from
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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Originally Posted by Jada View Post
    Hey xel , I just finished off with test cyp 500mg for 18 weeks decca 400mg for 14 weeks for bulk, really great cycle and added SIZE
    Yeah I was gonna do deca if I couldn't get npp. Which is why I have so much test laying around.
    I would bump my test up to 6-700
    Rock deca or npp at 500ish
    Tren was a second thought because I'm addicted to it and if I really do run it again it will be A so I can dump it quick if the sides from the Nan are to ruff.
    Hence why I have the low dose of test with the tren.
    Wanted to switch it up. Since I did high T low Tren this run with zero sides.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Bulking: test and deca

    Cutting: test and tren/mast

    The reason being tren makes it harder to gain total weight (water, muscle)..fat is easier to lose, so stick test+deca, go all out and then cut

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    So keep it simple npp and test. Maybe add a dbol Kicker.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Just for my bloods back
    216 on estradiol 00
    Thinking my adex is fake

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Does it matter? Are you having bad sides?

    My estro got that high during a test blast long ago, but i had no sides

    In other words, dont worry if you dont have sides..

    Deca's magic starts at 600..for joints even 100/wk will suffiice

    Yes KISS-keep it simple stupid

    Start dbol with 750 test/wk+deca 600/wk for 15 weeks

    I ALWAYS thought it was stupid to do "kickers"..

    start the oral at the same time and get more dramatic results by week 4 since you'll have 2 injects+oral peaking at same time

    Thats another discussion tho lol

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Well I had sensitive nips, what other sides should I be looking out for.
    Just figure high estrogen is bad especially rolling into pct.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Oh and my half working dick I've had for A few weeks.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    get your estro under control do a pct.Worry about the next cycle later

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Thanks for the advice but I want to get my gear while I have extra funds. So planning is a must.

    I got a female panel and added lipid. Does that not cover prolactin?

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Do you got caber? or Prami?
    If you are running an 19nor you should have these on hand before hand.
    I over plan shit so Anti E's and what have you come from multiple places just in case one is junk.
    In state of emergency for an AI, OTC Get ERASE/ERASE PRO

    But get everything for your cycle in check before you go running another one.
    **** the hormones. Go find yourself a good src for AI's and PCT. Buy that shit first. Then Pins. Then your gear.

    Just my thoughts. GL
    Bunch of slack-jawed fagg0ts around here. This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    I have caber now, which I wish I would have had awhile ago.
    Popped .5 yesterday and Ive had at least 3 unwanted erections.

    Its funny because a few bro's at the gym I asked for it said "huh why do u want that" like its unheard of to run it.

    Switched to aromasin since its from the same source I trust and gonna get bloods In few weeks.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Originally Posted by XELFLEC View Post
    I have caber now, which I wish I would have had awhile ago.
    Popped .5 yesterday and Ive had at least 3 unwanted erections.

    Its funny because a few bro's at the gym I asked for it said "huh why do u want that" like its unheard of to run it.

    Switched to aromasin since its from the same source I trust and gonna get bloods In few weeks.
    dont go by what the gym bros say

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Originally Posted by Brother Bundy View Post
    get your estro under control do a pct.Worry about the next cycle later
    This ^^^^^^^ and find some good aromasin.

    Put your cycle together backwards brother....line up PCT, then Syringes, needles, alcohol swabs, then orals, then oils.

    Stop running the 19nors for a while and consider a Test/Bold cycle. Slow the **** down brother- life is a marathon not a sprint.

    Respect,
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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    I have everything pct needles test AI
    My planning trying to figure out the best compound to bulk.
    Plys My source is ASAP. If I ever need anything it's there.
    But I planned this cycle and caber fell under the radar till a buddy mentioned it when I was trying to figure out tren dick. Then I manned up and got bloods and it kinda threw me for a loop.

    Now I want to learn to make corrections and see if my corrections work in a few weeks.

    If you read my first post this is mainly a discussion of what compounds to run. Pct might not even happen I may decide to cruise till next cycle if I get my bloods under control.
    Either that decision is a few weeks away but me stocking up on my 3rd cycle supplies is what I'm working on while I have the extra cash to go above and beyond.


    Estrogen will be under control
    Ill drop my liver values since its high at my own fault.
    And ill be donating blood ASAP.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Originally Posted by XELFLEC View Post
    I have everything pct needles test AI
    My planning trying to figure out the best compound to bulk.
    Plys My source is ASAP. If I ever need anything it's there.
    But I planned this cycle and caber fell under the radar till a buddy mentioned it when I was trying to figure out tren dick. Then I manned up and got bloods and it kinda threw me for a loop.

    Now I want to learn to make corrections and see if my corrections work in a few weeks.

    If you read my first post this is mainly a discussion of what compounds to run. Pct might not even happen I may decide to cruise till next cycle if I get my bloods under control.
    Either that decision is a few weeks away but me stocking up on my 3rd cycle supplies is what I'm working on while I have the extra cash to go above and beyond.


    Estrogen will be under control
    Ill drop my liver values since its high at my own fault.
    And ill be donating blood ASAP.
    You should get letro since you ain't got the best estrogen genetics lol

    Plus the letro will cut water and make you a lot drier


    Test 750mg/wk
    Deca 600-800mg/wk
    Anadrol 150mg 4-5 days/wk (the 2-3 days off will minimize sides, lessen liver stress, and STILL allow you to get all gains)
    Letro daily 1-1.5mg

    Good luck

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    That's a heavy 3rd cycle lol
    So in theory I could do NPP since its on order because my research says its >deca.
    That's alot of test but I think I can handle it.

    Everyone keeps saying letro and Im not to familiar with it so ill research as I have alot of time. I thought caber was similar and I'm already loving this caber.
    Buy I like it.
    Is there any way I could do test cyp eod @200 with my NPP 200? It could Keep things simple.

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    Originally Posted by XELFLEC View Post
    That's a heavy 3rd cycle lol
    So in theory I could do NPP since its on order because my research says its >deca.
    That's alot of test but I think I can handle it.

    Everyone keeps saying letro and Im not to familiar with it so ill research as I have alot of time. I thought caber was similar and I'm already loving this caber.
    Buy I like it.
    Is there any way I could do test cyp eod @200 with my NPP 200? It could Keep things simple.
    never listen to hulksmash...the worst person on the board to get advice on cycles and doses..

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    Re: 3rd cycle planning

    just because it a 3 cycle dont mean u need to go crazy..you may gain fine on 500mg test and 40 mg dbol

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