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    First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Hey everyone!

    I just finished my first cycle and am currently on week 2 of my PCT. I feel like I had a great cycle for using gear I later found was under dosed haha, I gained 20 pounds and as of today I'm still up 17.

    My stats:
    22 years old (23 when next cycle starts)
    5'7
    189 pounds
    12% bodyfat
    6 years lifting experience

    My first cycle was:
    Test E 500mg per week (12 weeks)
    LiquiDex .25 EOD
    Pct
    Novladex 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 50/50/50/50

    I found a new source, who hopefully has better gear haha. I am looking to start this cycle in November but really want to get the gear now so I have everything set to start.

    I really appriciate any help, different ideas for a second cycle, modifications to this cycle, or anyone whom has had real experience with EQ.

    Goal:I would like to make steady gains over 14 weeks and walk away with 10-15 pounds of keepable gains

    Proposed cycle:

    Anavar 40 mg per day (4 weeks)
    Equipoise 450mg per week (12 weeks)
    Test E 600mg per week (14 weeks)

    Hcg 250iu per week
    LiquiDex .25 EOD

    Pct
    Novaledex 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 50/50/50/50

    Thanks for your help!

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Your cycle looks good, kind of like mine. I would wait after your done your cycle to start hcg like 1000iu a week for 5 weeks then start clomid and nolva.

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Do the var for 6-8 weks at 60mg if your up to it.

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by losieloos View Post
    Your cycle looks good, kind of like mine. I would wait after your done your cycle to start hcg like 1000iu a week for 5 weeks then start clomid and nolva.
    Thanks for the advice, I have heard of people doing 1000iu of HCG for the 2 weeks between the last shot of test and PCT to help recovery but not delaying their PCT. what do you think of running HCG at the same time as clomid and novladex?

    Thank you

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by losieloos View Post
    Do the var for 6-8 weks at 60mg if your up to it.
    I actually was thinking 6 weeks at 50 when I started planning and then giving the left over var to my wife,. Have you run EQ and var at the same time before?

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Don't run hcg with clomid and nolvadex, I think that will do more harm than good. I've never ran eq witu anavar I'm fairly new.just waitfor some vets to help out I just going by what worked for me when I was doing pct.

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by losieloos View Post
    Don't run hcg with clomid and nolvadex, I think that will do more harm than good. I've never ran eq witu anavar I'm fairly new.just waitfor some vets to help out I just going by what worked for me when I was doing pct.
    Alright thanks for your help

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    I'm a 100mg ED Var man myself.

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I'm a 100mg ED Var man myself.
    What have been your results at that dose?

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Crippling pumps at 100mg of var. Awesome stuff!
    "Overzealous dosing" -Jin

    Rest in Peace Robot Lord. First round of Natty Boh is on me when I make it up there with you brother.

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    An EQ cycle should be more like 16 weeks. It's a very long ester.

    I would be remiss if I didn't tell you that 22 is awfully young to cycle and you had plenty of room for natural gains.

    You better get blood work done to see if your PCT was successful.
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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    An EQ cycle should be more like 16 weeks. It's a very long ester.

    I would be remiss if I didn't tell you that 22 is awfully young to cycle and you had plenty of room for natural gains.

    You better get blood work done to see if your PCT was successful.
    I completely agree with you with getting blood tests done. I got bloods done before my cycle and it came up that my natural test was only a 387, 2 weeks after PCT is when I am planning to go back in to see where I am at.

    Thank you for the advice on the EQ, 16 weeks on EQ and 18 on test seems long. Do you think this would be better then what I planned initially?

    Anavar 60 mg per day 5 weeks
    EQ 14 weeks 550 mg per week
    Test E 16 weeks 600 mg per week

    Thank you

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    What is the concern about the length of the cycle?
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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    What is the concern about the length of the cycle?
    Just that I am so new, my brother told me to keep cycles short to avoid being shut down too long since I'm young and don't have experience with the new substances.

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by Rocketsauce View Post
    Just that I am so new, my brother told me to keep cycles short to avoid being shut down too long since I'm young and don't have experience with the new substances.
    If you want to keep your cycles shorter then use shorter esters. A 12 week cycle with eq is a waste. Personally, I think eq itself is a waste. Useless drug. If you can get bold cyp instead of bold undec try that instead.

    I don't think that the length of time on cycle (talking about a two week difference) is going to make as much of a difference as the compounds you choose ie 19-nor compounds which are much harder to recover from no matter how long you run them.
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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Plus your natural level was shit anyway. You're going to be on TRT by your thirties if not sooner. I can guarantee that
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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    If you want to keep your cycles shorter then use shorter esters. A 12 week cycle with eq is a waste. Personally, I think eq itself is a waste. Useless drug. If you can get bold cyp instead of bold undec try that instead.

    I don't think that the length of time on cycle (talking about a two week difference) is going to make as much of a difference as the compounds you choose ie 19-nor compounds which are much harder to recover from no matter how long you run them.
    Alright thank you, I'll go with 16 weeks on EQ 18 weeks Test E. I can get 400mg/ml mix of cyp, isoproponate,decanoate and undec. I will get that instead of just straight bold undec.

    Boldenone kinda applealed to me because I'm in the military and I blew up on my last cycle(made people of all wrong ranks ask me questions). I was hoping that EQ/test would let me still claim natural and not draw attention by blowing up in a period of 5 or 6 weeks again

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    Re: First cycle done!...now planning my second!

    Originally Posted by Rocketsauce View Post
    Alright thank you, I'll go with 16 weeks on EQ 18 weeks Test E. I can get 400mg/ml mix of cyp, isoproponate,decanoate and undec. I will get that instead of just straight bold undec.

    Boldenone kinda applealed to me because I'm in the military and I blew up on my last cycle(made people of all wrong ranks ask me questions). I was hoping that EQ/test would let me still claim natural and not draw attention by blowing up in a period of 5 or 6 weeks again
    Weird blend of boldenone. Good luck!
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    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Weird blend of boldenone. Good luck!
    Thanks again for all your help!

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