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    Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    So I'll be running a pretty standard test cyp/deca cycle soon -- test cyp 500mg EW/deca 500mg EW for 14 weeks (maybe 16 weeks). I'll be adding in some var for the first time which should be no big deal but I'll only have enough to run it for 30 days at 50mg ED. Should I run this right out of the gate at the beginning of the cycle? Wait until the last 4 weeks? Or run it in the middle?

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    Height = 5'10"
    Weight = 195
    BF % = 12%
    Cycle experience = several running test/deca together at various doses. One cycle with test/deca/tren E; one cycle with test/EQ; one cycle with test/NPP kick start/deca
    *Been on HRT since 2010 and will not be doing a PCT - just returning to normal HRT dose at the end of the cycle.
    *I have armidex and prami on hand to combat sides. I have run both of these for cycles in the past and have never had E2 or prolactin issues.

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    First of all, thirty days of var isnt going to do much for you, especially at 50mg ed/unless its pharma. even then, a lot of guys wont run it under 75-100mg ed as its expensive and they wan to get the most out of their run.

    You want to watch your good cholesterol while running a var and tre/deca cycle, it will chew you up.

    In all honesty, I would recommend you either get more Var before considering running it in this cycle, or wait to run Var until you have more var to run for a longer period of time.

    Also, theres nothing technically wrong with running Var with Deca, but running it with tren would be a much more feasible approach, as it will lean you out and increase your strength. Deca I would likely run DBol or Adrol with, and run tren with Avar, just my two cents there but it is certainly something to consider.

    I have run Var many times, love it----especially on a test/tren/mast/var/gh/cycle. Never chose to run it with deca though.
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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    Get two-three bottles of Var minimum. Run 6-8 weeks AT LEAST. Run from 50mg-80mg for great results if your Var is g2g. Take at very beginning of cycle to "kickstart" your cycle. You will notice a nice strength increase around 2 weeks as well as great pumps. Shake and enjoy....unless it's in pill form...then swallow like a pornstar.

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    also run the test 3 weeks longer then deca since the deca ester takes time to clear the body

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    u could run var many ways..from the start or the back end.you can even do 4 weeks start and 4 weeks at the end of the cycle leading right into pct

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    Var and deca? Can you explain your thoughts on why?
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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    Originally Posted by Brother Bundy View Post
    also run the test 3 weeks longer then deca since the deca ester takes time to clear the body
    No need, amigo. I'm on HRT so I can taper my test dose back to regular dosing as I see fit. I usually take about a month to return to regular HRT protocol.

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    Var and deca? Can you explain your thoughts on why?
    Additional strength gains without the bloat. I don't mind adding some good size but at my age and for my goals I'm more interested in improving performance in the gym then I am with the size gains. I prefer to keep my gains on the down-low as much a possible and I'm afraid if I run dbol the rapid onset of size will cause people to wonder wtf I'm doing. I need to be able to justify my gains as "diet related" without raising red flags. To me, var is most likely to give me strength gains in the gym without needing to adjust my wardrobe.

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    Originally Posted by Epic_Ed View Post
    Additional strength gains without the bloat. I don't mind adding some good size but at my age and for my goals I'm more interested in improving performance in the gym then I am with the size gains. I prefer to keep my gains on the down-low as much a possible and I'm afraid if I run dbol the rapid onset of size will cause people to wonder wtf I'm doing. I need to be able to justify my gains as "diet related" without raising red flags. To me, var is most likely to give me strength gains in the gym without needing to adjust my wardrobe.
    And you don't get that when you run deca? Wasn't gonna tell you to run dbol btw. Was just curious about your reasoning.
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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    personally I wouldn't run var with deca/test,if you are bulking.......now on the other hand im running right now test/npp/masteron for sorta a mini bulk/cutting cycle,after I get through with my npp,im keeping the masteron/test and adding in my var to finish up

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    And you don't get that when you run deca? Wasn't gonna tell you to run dbol btw. Was just curious about your reasoning.
    I've run deca in a wide variety of doses -- 250mg just to see how it would help the joints; and then 400-600mg EW in other cycles. I've made good size and strength gains but nothing that caused the raised eye brow. The tren E cycle, however...I got A LOT of questions. lol.

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    I think I'm going to hold off on adding the var for now unless I can score enough to go at least 8 weeks with it. I know var is easier on the liver than most other orals but I don't want to push it past 8 weeks.

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    Re: Next cycle adding Var - need timing recommendations

    I haven't done Anavar in years, but I remember it being an all purpose oral AAS. Back in the day, 50mg was plenty good enough.

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