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    Trt not working. Need some help

    100mg test E twice a week for approx 8 months now and feel worse than I did prior to starting. 42yoa feeling like 72. First blood test was 352, 2nd 610, three weeks ago over 800 but still feel run down. Any suggestions please

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Its not just about your test levels, its about the balance of test and estro in your system, and your doc should be monitoring this like a hawk.

    Have you discussed your current physical and emotional standings with your pcp/hrt doc? This is the first step in the right direction.

    Are you prescribed an aromatase inhibitor, or anything to keep your estro in check while on therapy?

    Are you also running hcg while running your test? By the way its a little unusual to see someone running test E through a doc for trt, as nearly all docs ive encountered will run with test Cyp for trt. Nothing wrong with E, just some people dont respond well.

    Anyway, let us know, my friend, and i hope you start feeling better very soon.
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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    If you get a chance read my post in tge trt section for trt beginners. I would guess its an estro or diet issue.
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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Also get your thyroid levels checked. It runs in my wifes family so everytime i see someone that is lethargic thats one of the first things i think of.
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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    You should have your E2 checked also a CBC run to see where your crit levels are. Are you using a doc for your trt? or are you doing it yourself?

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    I was going to say thyroid as well but sfstud beat me to it.

    My TSH was high and my doctor prescribed me with Armor Thyroid and it made a big difference.
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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Running azole for my ai so I'm hoping I should be ok in the estro area. Reason for the E is I requested it. Had lots of pain and lumps from cyp years ago. Probably my friends fault but I'm not sure so I went the other direction. Naturthroid for my thyroid which is not as productive as it should be but I've also slacked on it due to headaches. Pig thyroid may not set well with me.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Also no hcg at this time.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    have you ever had a full female hormone panel done?? (bloodwork)...???

    we need to see everything.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    What I've read and heard from others who are using E for trt is that it may make you feel worse but there were no real reasons why. I'm guessing it may be a dosing issue with the E.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    SHBG (result 35.4) "HIGH" optimal male 17-25nmol/L reference range 17.0-25.0nmol/L

    IGF-1 (result 143.0) "CRITICALY LOW" Optimum for a 40 yr old is 228-307ng/ml optimum for 70yr old is 159-223!

    IGF-3 (result 0.5) "CRITICALY LOW" optimal range 4.5-5.5mg/L or reference range of 3.0-7.0mg/L

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Free t4 is low and PSA high. Everything else seems to fall into normal range for my age.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    but what's your estro at? Get the most recent bloodwork and post it up. we'll help with the interpretation

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Estro is at 34 pg/ml. Which should be ok for 42yoa

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    TRT is not a cure all. How is your diet and sleeping? Sleep disorder causing problems? Not enough sleep?

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Diet is good but the sleep is an issue.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Did go to the gym this afternoon and spoke with an old friend of mine who had a similar issue. His advise was buy some var and run 20mg a day for 6 weeks and I'd feel much better. He was on E as well and not cyp. I've heard issues with E and trt making you feel worse. He dropped about 10lbs and tightened up. Sounds like an idea. Been out of the game for a while so please feel free to put your 2 cents in.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Lol!!! Wtf?? I got some melatonin yesterday, took it lastnight about 10 and woke up today at ****ing 2. My dr is a ****ing quack. My sleep has always been an issue but I don't want to sleep through the day. Jesus I just want some ****ing energy.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    I remember back in the day when I was cycling drol. Great sense of well being, never tired, and good days at the gym. That's what I want back. I'm 42 and I know age will catch up one day but I think I'm still a little too young to be so gassed all the time.

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    Re: Trt not working. Need some help

    Djt248 please listen and try this along with ur shots! RIBOSE read on it it is sold at gnc vitamin world most anywhere! It saved my life! Natural sugar that body makes but not in food! I was dead run down test helped briefly but than flat again! Gives me energy better sleep pain mostly gone in muscles and tendons! U will be amazed! Google it! Let me kbow what u think!

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