upcoming cycle what do yall think?

[mabdelrasoul]

So iv.been.wanting to get on the tren train for a while, n now is my time. Was thinking of a sust tren a.tbol var.stack. So i was thinking my cycle should look something like this.

Sust300 1-8 (900mg ew) 8-16 (300mg ew)
Tpp100 17-19 (300mg ew) just to get in to pct faster. Figured id use it since i already have some on hand.
Tren a100 8-16 (400mg ew)
Caber 1-pct .5mg twice a week
Aromasin 1- pct. 12.5 mg eod
Hcg 2week blast before pct at 500ius eod
Pct
Clomid 20-24 100/50/50/50
Nolva 20-24 40/40/20/20

My question is should i use the tbol at a kickstart and finish off my cycle with the var being introduced with the tren or stack both towards the end. Say 50mg tbol 50-75mg anavar ed?

My stats
23yrs old
194 lb,5'10,15% bf
Iv done 2.previous cycles. 1 test dbol and 1 test npp dbol

Thanks yall and.any.advice.appreciated

 

[PillarofBalance]

So iv.been.wanting to get on the tren train for a while, n now is my time. Was thinking of a sust tren a.tbol var.stack. So i was thinking my cycle should look something like this.

Sust300 1-8 (900mg ew) 8-16 (300mg ew)
Tpp100 17-19 (300mg ew) just to get in to pct faster. Figured id use it since i already have some on hand.
Tren a100 8-16 (400mg ew)
Caber 1-pct .5mg twice a week
Aromasin 1- pct. 12.5 mg eod
Hcg 2week blast before pct at 500ius eod
Pct
Clomid 20-24 100/50/50/50
Nolva 20-24 40/40/20/20

My question is should i use the tbol at a kickstart and finish off my cycle with the var being introduced with the tren or stack both towards the end. Say 50mg tbol 50-75mg anavar ed?

My stats
23yrs old
194 lb,5'10,15% bf
Iv done 2.previous cycles. 1 test dbol and 1 test npp dbol

Thanks yall and.any.advice.appreciated

I'm feeling dizzy reading this. Why sustanon and why on earth such a huge dose of it? Test phenyl-prop to jump into PCT seems weird too. Why not test prop? Tren at the back end of a 19 week cycle? And why 19 weeks anyway?

What is the goal of this cycle?

 

[mabdelrasoul]

Well pob I figured if using the sust I wouldn't need a kickstart do to the short ester in there. And figured I would take advantage of the sust in the begening n gain as much as I could with high cals. The tpp is because I already have it on hand. If im not mistaken that will shorten my wait time in to pct by a week? Tren back end to solidify my gains n burn off some fat that I will have retained in the begining of cycle. And the reason for the long cycle is because I wanted a longer run.

 

[mabdelrasoul]

Goal to this cycle is to gain some mass n try to keep fat gains at a minimal. Got a little bit of a belly n this shit isnt going anywhere.
Any advice would be cool pob

 

[PillarofBalance]

Goal to this cycle is to gain some mass n try to keep fat gains at a minimal. Got a little bit of a belly n this shit isnt going anywhere.
Any advice would be cool pob

For your first tren run, simplify things. How much TPP you have on hand?

 

[mabdelrasoul]

Not much just 2 bottles.

 

[R1rider]

I would try to get more tpp or test prop, but if you already have the sus that will work too

You can skip the tpp and just run the sustanon @600mg a week for the first 8 weeks and then 300mg/week after.

You can kickstart with the tbol and end with the var. test/tren/var will be good together at the end

 

[PillarofBalance]

Not much just 2 bottles.

When you buy the tren get some more TPP. Pin both tren and tpp MWF. Throw in var for an oral if you want. But with shorter esters its not really needed so much. You can front load your tpp on shot one by pinning 3cc's (assuming its dosed at 100mg as well as your tren ace at 100mg).

 

[Bro Bundy]

whats wrong with using sust..yaya love sust.I agree to keep it simple

 

[PillarofBalance]

whats wrong with using sust..yaya love sust.I agree to keep it simple

Because the tren is a tough recovery as it is. Add in a month for the ester to clear in the sus before you can start your therapy? IMO that sucks (<--- clinical term).

 

[grind4it]

IMO, that's to much shit. If this is your first Tren run; Test+Tren+oral (honestly, 100 mg test 2X + 50mg Tren A ED) is all you need. The kitchen sink approach is going to suck if you start getting sides.

Just my two cents.

 

[hulksmash]

KISS-Keep It Simple Stupid

Buy more TPP, buy some tren and maybe some var

Keep tren at 400mg ew, TPP at 500-750 ew

Run 12-15 weeks

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but that is a SHITLOAD of SHIT for your 3rd cycle. I'm just about 100% sure the first time I ran Fina, I did 50 mg EOD with 100mg Prop EOD and got SHREDDED (Or so I thought).

I was right around your age too.

300 mg tren A / 300 mg test prop (use the TPP you have and get some Prop) weekly for 10 weeks. Run just the Prop for 2 weeks alone, and time your PCT from there. That should be enough IMO.

 

[TheLupinator]

It seems like you have a lot of sust on hand? If you really like sust you could do:

Sust @500 week 1-12
TBol @50/d week 1-4
Tren @400 week 5-12
TPP @300 week 14-16


Start pct week-19 (2weeks after last TPP pin), that gives you 6weeks off from sust.

Maybe throw in Var for last 6wks leading up to pct (weeks 13-18)

 

[mabdelrasoul]

I appreciate all the advice fellas. Your all right I should have kept this cycle simple since it is my first tren run.

So ill be running my cycle like this.

Tpp 1-6 600mg ew
Tpp 7-15 300mg ew bringing the tpp down as soon as I introduce the tren. Going to try that approach.
Tren a 7-15 450mg ew
Tbol 1-5 75mg ed
Anavar 7-15 75mg ed

What yall think alot better?

 

[gymrat827]

i would start the tren at 300mg EW. Drop the var. Your 23 and its your 3rd cycle. Tes/tren/t bol is more than enough to grow.

 

[mabdelrasoul]

Will do gymrat.

 

[gymrat827]

you could run more, but than you will have to keep upping the ante more and more each run after this. and tren is a whole new world.

 

[mabdelrasoul]

I will start at 300 see how it goes from there. Thanks brah