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    Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    At the request of POB, I have compiled what I would consider to be useful and hopefully helpful information. He more or less kicked me out of the shout and being an attention whore, I need to stay occupied.

    The first and what I would consider to be the most important supplement other than possibly fish oil is going to be a well rounded multi vitamin. You are going to hear many different opinions on this matter, but in my humble opinion having the foundation laid down before you start to build the house is critical. I have been through nearly all of the multis on the shelf, from Anavite and Animal Pak, to GNC and VS brand Multis, and the one that I have run the longest and feel the most benefit from is going to be:

    Orange Triad

    This broad spectrum Multi Vitamin is not only my current favorite, but In my opinion is also the most well rounded. It contains not only the necessary vitamins and minerals, but it is dosed and compiled to reflect the needs of athletes and the demands that we put on our bodies. Not only that, but Orange Triad also contains a joint support blend of Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin Sulfate at a ose of 2000mg per 6 capsule serving. 6 caps is relatively little compared to the 22 caps of Animal Pak. As part of their Flex Blend hey also added MSM which has a high sulfur content, which is one of the building blocks for healthy joints. Bromelain and Hyaluronic acid are also added to the mixture, which are responsible for helping to digest proteins and also boost joint health as functioning as a systemic enzyme.

    There is also a strong immunity boosting formula included in the daily serving, as well as a healthy digestion aid.

    Its critical to remember that if we injure our joints, we are out of the game. If we get sick, we are out of the game. If we dont get the proper nutrients, or we dont get the most out of our whole foods and shakes, we are not going to perform the way we would like to in the gym. We also will not recover as fast as we would like.

    This brings me to Joint Support. There are two that I swear by, and I have put many people on these products or combination of products and they have seen absolutely amazing changes in their joint and ligament/tendon health. I am a firm believer that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If a joint, ligament, or tendon is injured, you are looking at a long slow recovery in most cases, as these parts of the human anatomy are notorious for having the longest healing/recovery times.

    SuperCissus

    This is hands down the best product on the market for joint, ligament and tendon health. Cissus Quadrangularis is a plant/root from India that has been shown in clinical studies to actually repair and promote a healthy thriving environment for this tissue. I have tried many different brands of cissus, and without a doubt USPlabs produces the highest quality of the ingredient available today.

    Cissus has been shown to not only help repair and maintain healthy ligaments and joints, but in some studies it has been noted and shown to help reduce and maintain cortisol levels in the human body when taken at regular doses for extended periods of time. Cortisol is what is known to many as the "stress hormone" and has been known to have adverse effects on the human body, such as testosterone suppression, increased storage of belly fat, and sluggishness. You feel less than yourself when your cortisol levels are raised, and I assure you when you do something about it you will actually "feel" better.

    I have been taking the product for many years and it is likely my favorite Ive ever taken.

    Achilles

    Amazing when stacked with SC from USPlabs. Many of us in this game have been plagued by joint, ligament and/or tendon issues, or have had injuries involving them. I myself have been nagged by a left knee and left elbow injury for years, and the combination of these two products has literally changed the way I perform in the gym after these injuries and constant aching. My joints no longer ache, I dont feel pain in my elbow during curls any longer, and i can squat ass to the ground for sets without my knee pain ending the workout.

    The ingredient Profile for Achilles is completely different from that of the joint blend in Orange Triad, which lends the product to being stacked with the other two for an all out war against joint pain and discomfort. There is a small amount of Cissus in the Achilles product, but it is not enough to counter the effects of adding the two together.


    For my Intra/Recovery product, the choice is without a doubt:

    Modern BCAA+

    If you have not tried this product, you are very much missing out on the best intra/recovery product on the market. It has 15 grams of aminos per 2 scoop serving. 10g of BCAA, which are critical in my opinion for recovery and enduance. BCAA are Branched Chain Amino Acids, and there are 3, Leucine, Isoleucine, and Valine. Leucine is the longest chain and the most effective and "anabolic" of the three, however you do need those supportive BCAA in there as well to help everything function properly. The dosing that USPlabs advertises for this product is an 8:1:1 formula with Leucine being the highest dosing at 8 and the others much lower at 1 per part. This is critical. Bodybuilders used to "mega dose" their BCAA to get higher levels of Leucine in their system. They would take two to three servings just to get Leucine at higher levels, so USPlabs took the hassle out of it and did it for us. BCAA all compete for the same utilization in the system and use the same "highway" to get ther, so making sure Leucine is filling more spots than the others is a crucial. If your body does not need BCAA at the moment, it will break these Branched Chains down into other aminos that it does need and will utilize them that way.

    Your body also needs what are known as "exercise" aminos. Glycine, Lysine, Alanine, and Taurine. I will not cover all of them, but Taurine is great to prevent cramping and back pumps whether on cycle or not. Glycine is the most abundant amino in you skeletal muscle tissue and is really the first to go when you train on an empty stomach as most of us do. Having Glycine introduced to your body during your workouts is amazing, try it and see. It keeps you going a little longer and a little stronger.

    Modern BCAA has no calories, no sugar, no artificial flavors, and no carbs. BCAA also metabolize directly into muscle tissue so there is no real digestion.

    Modern BCAA also contains the electrolytes Sodium and Potassium, which we all know are great for filtering the kidneys as well as staying hydrated.

    We all have taken Glutamine, but what few of us know is that Glutamine is highly unstable and rapidly breaks down to ammonia in your system. The newer, more effective version of L glutamine is called Sustamine, which is a trans alanyl or L alanyl L glutamine, which basically means it is bonded and much more stable and effective in your system. You take less of it and get more from it than traditional L Glutamine.

    For those running orals or needing liver support:

    Aegis

    Contains TUDCA, which is approved by the FDA for treatment of Primary Biliary Cirrhosis. Amazing product here, comparable to LiverLonger but with better dose and purity.

    TUDCA has also been noted to reverse bile blockage.

    LIV52 is great to stack with this as well, but I wouldnt run an oral without taking Aegis. You have one liver, take care of it or pay the consequences. Many of our brothers in the game have fallen victim to permanent injury or death due to liver and kidney failure. Youve got 2 kidneys, 1 liver. Remember that.

    If you want an Omega 3 breakdown, Im glad to post up on it. I have to cut this short as my wife is expecting me to make dinner.

    I hope this helps some of you newer guys out with ancillary and support supplement questions. Remember that its not just about your cycle, its about what you run to maximize the benefits of that cycle and minimize the negative sides that come along with running AAS.
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    great post GK
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Good post.

    Modern BCAA, if I'm going to use a BCAA is the only one I'll use. Partly because its micronized and its gritty and disgusting. It also doesn't taste like some god awful nasty chemical sweetener
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Just a note, after the fact.

    *SC and Achilles together literally has my joints feeling like I am running low doses of Deca.

    *Modern BCAA cuts my DOMS in half, and changed my performance and endurance in the gym entirely. I am half as sore, and it is quite noticeable to me when I take the product and when I do not.

    *Orals, other than say Anavar, are normally Hepatixic. Winny and Halodrol are some of the most Hepatoxic orals that you can take, and if you want to stay in this game longer than a few awesome years, you really want to take Aegis with your oral cycles.

    *Talos is a new cycle support product from the same lab that makes Aegis, and although I have not tried it, it appears to be a very well rounded and comprehensive on-cycle support that looks like it would help manage many sides that may occur due to use of AAS, in particular oral delivery AAS.
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Modern BCAA has a new formula, much better flavor, and no foam.
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Awesome list gonna def get these to add to my routine!
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Great post but I wouldn't pay that much for vitamins even if they contained Dbol.
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Thanks Sam.

    Im a believer of "to each their own".

    If something works, and performs a function for me that I deem critical to my health, I dont care how much it costs. Its the same reason I pay more for higher quality gear.

    Fact is, gear is inexpensive. Its what you have to take pre, during and post that I consider the expensive but necessary essentials to run a cycle properly and safely. Truth be told the supps can cost more than the gear. To me its worth it and mandatory, just like food. The damage done by AAS can be substantial, no matter how you slice and dice it, and if spending some coin can help minimize that damage or increase what I get from a cycle Im all in.
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Bump just to post whore my own thread. **** you guys.
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Thank you for this post. It makes me realize that there may actually be a benefit to some of these supplements, and that I should really reconsider using some. I will further research and make a call! Some of these would at the very least bring some peace of mind knowing that I am doing all I can to help my body functioning optimally.

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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Thank you for the post. I will ask that you please do give us an Omega 3 breakdown when you get the chance. I find it to be of importance.

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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    I haven't been taking any supplements for a while, but I'll make sure I'll start taking some BCAAs.

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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Good post and read GK. I have used Aegis, Supercissus, and Modern BCAA's on your list....

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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Nice post but you're still an asshole.

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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    If not prohibited by board rules please post links on where we can purchase these sups at best prices. I agree with you on the cost to benefit ratio. Many of us pay $200 to well over $1,000 per month on hgh but totally neglect this kind of supplementation.

    I am sure my GNC animal crack (I mean muti-vit is a joke). I am not taking any joint support or BCAA at the moment so this is great timing.

    Thanks for the info!
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    Re: Supplements that I always run during a cycle

    Nice post brother great info I like my multi and modern bcaa's thats about all I use

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