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    Kidney pain or just lower back strain?

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    Age - 45
    Height - 5'10"
    Weight - 205
    BF - 13-15%
    Cycle history - average about two cycles per year since 2010. Usually run test/deca, but have run cycles with NPP, tren E, proviron, and EQ.

    Current cycle - started on 7/24 running 600mg deca EW/700mg test cyp EW. Included var starting on 8/21 at 50mg ED (25mg in AM 25mg prior to 6pm workout). STOPPED the var on 9/11 due to feeling lethargic as hell when taking it. I figure 3 weeks of var at 50mg ED was long enough to work past any temporary sides and decided I didn't like the price I was paying versus the gains I was making. I'm also taking .25mg of Liquidex EOD and prami at .25mg ED.

    On Thursday 9/12 I did a rather heavy and intense dead lift workout and my lower back felt really tight. I didn't have the strength I expected I'd have and I really struggled to get through the workout. I eventually cut it short due to back fatigue. It has been achy and tight on the left side ever since. The pain isn't in the lower part right above the hip bone, but higher and toward the spinal erectors. It feels like an dull to moderate ache and it's like that muscle group is really fatigued. I haven't done deads since last Thursday when the symptoms began but several other exercises I've done (squats, cleans) make it flair up and I get pumped and easily fatigued. I love dead lifts and it's one of my favorite exercises, mainly because I've developed a strong back over the years and have never had an injury. That's why I have been skeptical about the pain being from muscle strain.

    So -- I'm trying to figure out if this is just back pain due to a mild strain or whether this is pain coming from my kidney. I have probably not been drinking as much water as I should, so I could definitely bump up my intake to see if that helps. Aside from that, does anyone have any suggestions for how I can differentiate lower back strain related pain from kidney pain?

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    Is there foam in urine?

    Is there fatigue?

    Is there blood in urine?

    The first two are usually dead giveaways...


    CAUTION- the amount of foam should be a lot and FOAM CAN APPEAR IF YOU HAVE A LARGE VOLUME OF URINE (like from holding it)

    So, if you got a lot of foam, not been holding it, had plenty of water...and it's constant...


    Go to a doc.

    Is there

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    No foam. Fatigue? Yes, but that has significantly improved since dropping var from my cycle last week (9/11). No blood in urine.

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    This might sound weird but when my gallbladder started giving me problems my lower back was killing me, it felt like someone was stabbing me in the back. To be sure go to your Doctor to make sure is nothing serious.

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    Agree with the Bros above. If you've got good insurance, get to your Doc and get looked at to be safe.

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    Back pumps. Up your water intake...

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    Originally Posted by amore169 View Post
    This might sound weird but when my gallbladder started giving me problems my lower back was killing me, it felt like someone was stabbing me in the back. To be sure go to your Doctor to make sure is nothing serious.
    That kind of pain is called referred pain

    Its symptomatic and good at helping docs find the problem

    I too had referred pain before my gall bladder came out

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    Originally Posted by Bigwhite View Post
    Back pumps. Up your water intake...
    ^THIS

    no foam, no worry

    And fyi OP, i was worried about my kidneys, since I had chonic hypertension (dont drink a ton daily and use gear kids)

    Had a lot of foam..creatinine came back a little on the high end

    Doc said not to worry and keep an eye on it

    Wife put an end to my drinking, BP went normal, and foam lessened greatly

    I sure was worried tho, looked like I was pissing Dawn dish soap

    My wife is awesome btw

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    I'm fairly convinced this is just back pumps at this point. The past two days I've increased my water intake significantly and it helped until this evenings workout. I now have pain even higher along the spinal erectors above the kidneys. Feels like someone punched me in the kidneys and racked me in the nuts at the same time. Blood pressure might be a bit high, too. I'll take it in the morning to find out. Other than increasing water intake, any other suggestions?
    Last edited by Epic_Ed; 09-19-2013 at 12:34 AM.

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