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Just starting a log for you guys to look at and give feedback.

Current stats:
23yo
175-178lbs
5'9"

Running:
Watson Test Cypionate @ 400mg a week, may be bumping up to 500mg
Anavar @ 40mg a week

PCT:
Clomid

AI:
Exemestane

Day 1, October 15th pinned 2cc's right away... Because I'm stupid? I have no idea why I put 2cc's in but whatever 'preloading' I suppose? So I wont pin again until week two. Took 1 1/2 cc's Anavar at night.

Day 2, October 16th 1cc Anavar in the morning, 1cc at night.

Day 3, October 17th 1cc Anavar in the morning, 1cc at night. Getting low back pumps.

Day 4, October 18th 1cc Anavar in the morning, 1cc at night. Stronger low back pump, took some taurine to help with it.

Will keep updating,

Thanks guys
 

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how many weeks u plan on running everything?
 

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whats your test dosed at per ml?...assuming its 200-250/ml....id recommend twice a week on cyp...say mon. thurs...just because you frontloaded 4-500, you didn't have to skip a day....thats the point of frontloading
 
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get more 10 weeks its just getting crazy 12-14 is better
 

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Trying to get some more BB, and yes Popeye its 200mg/mL. Im sticking to 400mg per week and since I did that initially and now waiting until Monday for 1cc. As this being my first cycle I don't want to suppress my HPTA too heavily... But if I cant get more I will bump the dose.
 

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Trying to get some more BB, and yes Popeye its 200mg/mL. Im sticking to 400mg per week and since I did that initially and now waiting until Monday for 1cc. As this being my first cycle I don't want to suppress my HPTA too heavily... But if I cant get more I will bump the dose.

you cant be alittle shutdown..its either shut or not 400mg or a gram will shut u down the same
 

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400mg for 10 -12 weeks will get u results nothing to where people will freak out but you can look good
 

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Days 5-6 October 19-20, 1cc Anavar in the morning and at night.

Day 7 October 21, 1cc Test, 1cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 8-9 October 22-23, 1cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 10 October 24, 1cc Test, 1cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 11-13 October 25-27, 1cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 14 October 18, 1cc Test, 1cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 15-16 October 29-30, upped dose of Anavar to 1.5cc morning and night.

Day 17 October 31, 1cc Test, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night.

Will post some progress pics soon.
 

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Bottom three from left to right start from 2009 to 2013. Top two are current.



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First of all, heres a problem I see all across the forums-

STOP USING THE TERM "SHUT DOWN"!!

SHUTDOWN=NOT ABLE TO CREATE ENDOGENOUS HORMONES

Cycles cause SUPPRESSION of hormone creation, not SHUTDOWN

If that was the case, after every 1st cycle everyone would be on TRT LOL

Shutdown occurs from never coming off/not off long enough to get the body to start making hormones

Bump test to 500mg too
 

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First of all, heres a problem I see all across the forums-

STOP USING THE TERM "SHUT DOWN"!!

SHUTDOWN=NOT ABLE TO CREATE ENDOGENOUS HORMONES

Cycles cause SUPPRESSION of hormone creation, not SHUTDOWN

If that was the case, after every 1st cycle everyone would be on TRT LOL

Shutdown occurs from never coming off/not off long enough to get the body to start making hormones

Bump test to 500mg too

Without a proper pct with quality medication everyone WOULD be on trt after cycle one.
 

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Without a proper pct with quality medication everyone WOULD be on trt after cycle one.

Not everyone....depends on variables like dosages, cycle length, etc

I and a couple of my buds NEVER ran PCT (hell I have yet to even take ancillaries) through oral cycles and my first two times with Test

I turned out fine on bloodwork, so did they...its all individual

Thats why a few years ago I started thinkin how PCT is overblown

Of course, its NOT overblown and needed for most, so I'd be hurtin some folks telling them not to do pct lol
 

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Letro is an ancillary :p

You little...lol

I mean for what its intended for, not during cycle for just water loss..plus its the only one I've ran lol

Btw bud i got off letro, just letting deca shower me with her wetness again

I know your glad for my joints sake lol
 

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Not everyone....depends on variables like dosages, cycle length, etc

I turned out fine on bloodwork, so did they...its all individual

Thats why a few years ago I started thinkin how PCT is overblown

Of course, its NOT overblown and needed for most, so I'd be hurtin some folks telling them not to do pct lol

When I first started I had no freaking clue what PCT was... I got my gear from shady places and these sort of sites weren't really around yet. So my initial years experimenting with AAS I never used any sort of ancillary or did a PCT. Never got any sort of "depression" afterwards or feeling down... in fact I felt like I was still on 6 months after I had stopped sometimes.

Like he said - this is probably abnormal and I would not recommend it - you all have the resources at your fingertips so use them.

POB you posted an article a while back, if I remember correctly, called "the art of coming off steroids"? A good read which detailed how people used to "come off" back in the day without PCT. Basically gives a timetable of your natural recovery. (8 week windows of clearing, bottom, and ramping back up your levels)
 

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That article was written by glycoman who is a member of basskiller's board. It was a good one.

I know PCT is important for recovery because we have bloodwork to prove it.

But some of the ancillary stuff we do like caber on Deca is lame.

Now let's all stop hijacking this log. Hulk, shut up! Lol
 

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That article was written by glycoman who is a member of basskiller's board. It was a good one.

I know PCT is important for recovery because we have bloodwork to prove it.

But some of the ancillary stuff we do like caber on Deca is lame.

Now let's all stop hijacking this log. Hulk, shut up! Lol

Hulk let little guy make log

Hulk quiet now
 

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Day 18-20 November 1-3, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 21 November 4, 1cc Test, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 22-23 November 5-6, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 24 November 7, 1cc Test, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 25-27 November 8-10, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night.

Day 28 November 11, 1cc Test, 1.5cc Anavar morning and night. <-- Anavar is out. Never will I take liquid Var again.

Day 29-30 November 12-13, Exemestane .5cc


Yeah, liquid Anavar sucks. You never get the same dosing, the compound always falls out of solution so you have to boil or heat it up... ill get some pills next time. I feel some strength from it, but who knows. It wasn't bunk, but I got way more concentrated amounts closer to the bottom. Now just running Test.
 

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