Ah shit finally made it to Rogan been waiting for this!

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IIRC he owns or is affiliated with a TRT clinic. He has a vested interest in popularizing it. It’s a huge conflict of interest.

I agree with you 100%. These kids are going to end up fucking themselves up by going on TRT at age 20.
He says on the Rogan podcast he’s cutting back and trying to be safe if anything he’s gonna make the younger guys smarter about it the ones they gonna abuse it gonna do it anyways
 

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I was good for years. I always did my PCT carefully, got pre and post cycle bloods to make sure that I had recovered… test always came back ~700.

I quit cycling entirely for a year and after six months or so I was feeling run down and lethargic. Got checked and my test was in the low 200s. Ended up on TRT.

Hormones are crazy, man. No idea why my test yanked after being off AAS, but here we are.

That's the other thing, these kids don't realize shit like that can happen where you just don't fully recover.

I had to have everything PERFECT. Like optimal sleep, perfect micronutrients, perfect suplimentstion, everything, just to barely scrape into 650 total. And these assholes think they need trt because "900 or higher is normal for my age"



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I get all that and take it with a grain of salt, since his target is more on the TRT and quality of life stuff.

My gripe is how much he's normalized TRT, especially with kids. His subreddit is a mess of 18 year olds asking if they should get on trt because they don't have 900 test but "have low test symptoms"

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I have a gripe with that too. That's ignorant AF.
 

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I have a gripe with that too. That's ignorant AF.
I don't think it's intentional, I think it's more in the stupid kids for not realizing, but he does need to acknowledge it

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I don't think it's intentional, I think it's more in the stupid kids for not realizing, but he does need to acknowledge it

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Yeah, I started at 21 and if I could have a do over, I would not have started then, maybe never at all until I actually tested low.
 

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Yeah, I started at 21 and if I could have a do over, I would not have started then, maybe never at all until I actually tested low.
I started pinning at 21. At 19 I used prohormones and designer steroids my test was 1147ng/dL, after my first injectable cycle at 21, my test never made it back up to even 800 again. Now without test my levels are low 200ng, whilst my dad who's never used anything has natty 918ng/dL at 60yo.

All that said, if I could do it again, I'd have used sooner. Lol
 
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I don't think it's intentional, I think it's more in the stupid kids for not realizing, but he does need to acknowledge it

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Yeah, he didn't normalize shit. He is just talking about what so many people wouldn't talk about for so long.

It's not his fault that a bunch of idiot teenagers make up a good portion of his fan base. Matter of fact, he often preaches the exact opposite of what you see those idiots doing or trying to do.

I also don't think he needs to acknowledge anything. He talks shit about idiots quite often, which those kids are part of that demographic. Why does he need to specifically call them out? IMO he has better things to do with his time.
 

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Almost half way through pretty good episode so far.
 

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Dont know who this cat is but Ill give it a whirl.

In general, I do think hormone replacement is underutilized. Glad to see people discussing it more and more.
 

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Dont know who this cat is but Ill give it a whirl.

In general, I do think hormone replacement is underutilized. Glad to see people discussing it more and more.
Really smart kid knows his shit extremely well owns trt clinics has his own supplement line and a very good YouTube channel he films in front a wall ac and. Wooden wall panels lol
 
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I get all that and take it with a grain of salt, since his target is more on the TRT and quality of life stuff.

My gripe is how much he's normalized TRT, especially with kids. His subreddit is a mess of 18 year olds asking if they should get on trt because they don't have 900 test but "have low test symptoms,"
I'm one of those kids 😂😂
 
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Low t runs in the family, even my brother at 24 is on the low end of the scale
 
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MPMD is OK I guess, but he’s bad for making a 5 minute explanation take half an hour, and he’s also bad for drawing conclusions that aren’t supported by the material that he’s referencing. Using a study on AIDS patients to tout the efficacy of 100 test and 20mg of anavar over other stacks, for example. Of course it was effective; you’re using AAS on people who suffer from muscle wasting.

He seems like a nice enough guy, but if I swear to God, if I hear him use the word “deploy” in reference to using a compound one more time, I’m going to find him and punch him in the dick hole.

I agree completely.
Too long winded for me too.

But he does have good information
 

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never heard of him, but enjoyed the podcast
 

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never heard of him, but enjoyed the podcast
Super good lol touched alot of subjects was listening to the part about divorce lol while driving my wife for her monoclonal therapy she tried saying something I’m like that’s why the corporation under your name lmao she would be paying me alimony
 

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Rogan ran that podcast horribly. There shouldve been a detailed discussion about TRT. Benefits AND the risks. Nobody learned anything from that
 

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Rogan ran that podcast horribly. There shouldve been a detailed discussion about TRT. Benefits AND the risks. Nobody learned anything from that
I also wanted to know more about his days as a bouncer and as a pick up artist.

I thought maybe he didn't want to talk formulations too much with his competition so I gave that a pass.

It took a turn and got boring.
 

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I discovered Derek and mpmd by accident and I’m so glad I did I love that guy
 

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