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You're not going to get stable levels by dosing dbol only 2-3 times a day; the half life for dbol is approximately 4-5 hours... so you'd need to dose it 5 times a day to have stable blood levels. Orals with longer half lives, such as winny with an 8-9 hour half life, can get away with dosing only 2-3 times a day.

The idea of taking dbol pre-workout is to maximize strength and muscle damage during the workout; which will hit hard and fast due to its very short half life, and leverage other compounds for actual gains.

Have you actually compared splitting it throughout the day, versus taking it pre workout? If so then were you running identical injectables in both cases? What were your results in both of these cases? I'm genuinely interested.

If you want, you can just PM me. I don't necessarily want to clutter up CJ's log.
Just my two cents now having done it both ways. I used to try and dose it every 4 hours all day in the past , as far as I knew it was the only "proper" way. It wasn't until I met all of you fellas and learned and became curious about front loading it in one bolus dose pre workout , some thing in the past I only had experience doing with Halo. I have been using 25mgs as a pre workout roughly an hour before I drop into the pit. I notice an increase in strength across the board , slightly more ,, not aggression but lets call it drive to finish a grindy rep , more of the , oh yeah fuck you ! comes out. Pumps ! I can actually I can get a pump , for most of you that's not a hard thing at all , for me it can be exhausting trying to get the blown up feeling like ive got an extra 20lbs of air in my tires , maybe its from lifting for so many years , sports , genetics , who the fuck knows but with the dbol I get pumps nothing too excrutiating , no problems with back pumps yet at all. Now in the past dbol has fucked with my bp and my liver a bit from dosing it all day long , so far a week in using it as a preworkout only i'm not seeing or experiencing any bp issues , and my piss isn't starting to look like iced tea so thats a bonus. No itchy nips , no head aches and so far no extra zits. I know every compound works a bit differently for every one but that is what I see so far.
 

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PULL DAY A

A) Ntrl Grip Cable Pulldowns
120 x 16,16,16
(dropped back on weight on these, and did slower reps with holds. I felt like my form needed a reset)

B) Different Ntrl Grip Row Machine, has an arcing motion, felt pretty good.
95 x 18
115 x 15
135/95 x 12/8 (drop set)

C) Different OH Grip Row Machine, grip was closer than I'd like, machine that I wanted was occupied.
90 x 13
90 x 13
90 x 13-7-6 (rest pause set)

D) DB Rear Delt Flyes
17.5's x 18
15's x 15
12.5' x Rest Pause Set, lots of reps

E) Inc DB Curls
27.5's x 15
25's x 12
22.5's x 11
20's x 12 + 11 Hammer Curls

F) Different Leg Extension machine, with holds
100 x 14
90 x 12
80 x 11
 

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Weekly Weight/Nutrition Update:

Up to a 212.2 lbs average weight for the week, a 1.5 lb increase from last week. Thanksgiving lasted basically for 4 days, so lots of food this week.

5109 Cals
556 g C
305 g P
185 g F
 

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Weekly Weight/Nutrition Update:

Up to a 212.2 lbs average weight for the week, a 1.5 lb increase from last week. Thanksgiving lasted basically for 4 days, so lots of food this week.

5109 Cals
556 g C
305 g P
185 g F
But what about the peanut macro
 

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PUSH DAY B:

A) HS Shoulder Press
165 x 10 (up 10 lbs from last time)
120 x 14,12,11 (increase weight and reps from last time)

B) HS Chest Press
140 x 15
150 x 10
150/100 x 9/8 (drop set)

C) HS Incline Press
140 x 13
120 x 13
110 x 14-6-5 (rest pause set)

D) DB Laterals (pause reps + continuous)
17.5's x 20+5
15's x 15+6
12.5's x 20+5
12.5's x 18-11-11+5 Partials (rest pause set)

E) Cross Cable Tricep Exts, step back + step in
17.5's x 14+6
15's x 10+9
12.5's x 11+5

F) Seated Calfs
80 x 26
70 x 16
60 x 16-7-7+Weighted Stretch Hold (rest pause set)
 

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It's LEG DAY!!!!

A) Seated Leg Curls, plantar + dorsiflexed
120 x 10+5
110 x 8+5
100 x 10+6

B) Power Squats, facing IN
+450 x 8 (r9) *was going to go for a 500 lb set, but my back still has a little twinge from last week's mishap, so I didn't push it. Live to fight another day.

+320 x 12, 10, 8. *These sets were at (r8), same reason as above.

C) Power Squats, facing OUT
+140 x 12,10,9

D) Rotary Calf Machine, full rom + partials
355 x 12+7
315 x 12+5
275 x 13+3
235 x 15+4

E) Stability Ball Crunches, 3 sets
 

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PULL DAY B

A) Plate Loaded Pulldown Machine, Ntrl grip, with pauses
180 x 14
160 x 13
140 x 15

B) OH Grip HS CS Upper Back Rows
140 x 10,9,9
110 x 15

C) Arc Motion Row Machine
115 x 17,15,15

D) Plate Loaded Iso Lateral Preachers
27.5's x 18
25's x 13
22.5's x 13

E) Standing Cross Cable Rear Delt Flyes
12.5's x 14
10's x 16
10's x 15-9-9 (rest pause set)

F) Rotary Calf Machine
295 x 19
265 x 16
235 x 16
205 x 18

*fatigue is starting to accumulate, so I'm dropping the intensity techniques from my main compound lifts for the next 3 weeks.
 

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PUSH DAY A:

A) Low Inc DB Bench
80's x 8,8,8
65's x 10

B) HS Decline Press
210 x 10
170 x 14,12

C) HS Military Press
150 x 9
120 x 11
90 x 13

D) DB Laterals, paused + continuous
20's x 15+6 (traps took over too much)
15's x 14+6
15's x 13+7
12.5's x 16-11-8+8 Partials (rest pause set)

E) Flat DB Skullcrushers, behind head, kept arms less than vertical
25's x 13
25's x 11
20's x 13-6-3+14 Presses (rest pause set)

F) Leg Extensions, with holds at top, different than normal machine I use
100 x 15
90 x 12
80 x 11
70 x 12
 

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Weekly Weight/Nutrition Update:

Average weight this week of 212.4 lbs, an increase of 0.2 lbs from last week.

I'm 8 weeks into my cycle, and I've gained 7.4 lbs, right in line with my target goal. 8 weeks left, on pace to get to my 220 lb end target weight.

4159 Cals
430 g C
299 g P
134 g F
 

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PULL DAY A:

A) Ntrl Grip Cable Pulldowns
126 x 17,15,19 (long rest before last set, a chatty Kathy was talking my ear off)

B) OH Grip HS CS Upper Back Row
130 x 12,11
110 x 14

C) LF Ntrl Grip Row
90 x 20
110 x 18
130 x 17

D) DB Rear Delt Flyes
15's x 22
12.5's x 21
10'a x 24-11-11+Partials (rest pause set)

E) DB Incline Curls
25's x 18
22.5's x 14
20's x 12
17.5's x 15 + 9 Hammer Curls

F) Seated Calfs
80 x 23
70 x 18
60 x 15-8-8+Weighted Stretch Hold (rest pause set)

Cardio:
Recumbent Bike, L-12, 20 mins 🤢🤮
 

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It took me a minute to figure out "LF" row. But I got it.
 
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LEG DAY!!!!!!!!

A) Seated Leg Curls, plantar + dorsiflexed
100 x 14+6
100 x 11+8
100 x 9+6

B) Power Squats, facing IN
+450 x 8 (r8)
+500 x 6 (r9)
+320 x 13,12,10

C) Power Squats, facing OUT
+140 x 12,11,10 (failed rep 11)

D) Rotary Calfs, full ROM + Partials
330 x 15+5
300 x 14+4
270 x 14+3
240 x 17+4

E) Stability Ball Crunches
3 sets
 

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