God bless chicks with sharps elbows. I have a standing DTM every week. I search out the people that actually know how to give it. My current lady charges $60 (tip included) as long as you commit to a standing appointment.
IMO, the pain is worth the reward. My girl specializes in people that train with weights. She will beat you up real good the first few trips after that they arnt as painful. This is my experiance.
I have had massages all over the US, Central & S. America, EU and Asia. Hands down the Asian are the best. In China they literally include an adjustment and stretching that requires a separate trip to the chiropractor here. Another bizzare note about the chinese massage; they try to do something with your ass. i dont know if its prosate related; when they start heading in that direction. i simple start say "oh fuck no", even though they dont speak english they seem to understand. im not sure if they offer a tug; its not been offered.
Southeast has some really cheap messages (when you do the math $20 or less) that come complete with bars on the ceiling so the girls can use thier heals....yes, a tug is included in the price. I have yet to see one that I would let tug me....most of them are dog face ugly.
So, there some useless information from Grind
Bottom line.....IMO, DTM are a good thing and should be included.