Dropped fin and now my dht is super high

[Bigbadwolf25]

So I was taking fin to help with hair loss for a few months. Didn't really notice any benefits. Came off it for a month and got my dht levels checked and they are nearly double the normal range. Should I take the fin again to stay in range or leave it be?

 

[Send0]

So I was taking fin to help with hair loss for a few months. Didn't really notice any benefits. Came off it for a month and got my dht levels checked and they are nearly double the normal range. Should I take the fin again to stay in range or leave it be?

Dude, you seem paranoid with type of stuff you post.

As usual, the first question is do you actually have a problem you are experiencing?

If yes then do what you think is necessary... If the answer is no you are not experiencing problems then your test results are only numbers on a piece of paper and nothing more.

 

[Bigbadwolf25]

Dude, you seem paranoid with type of stuff you post.

As usual, the first question is do you actually have a problem you are experiencing?

If yes then do what you think is necessary... If the answer is no you are not experiencing problems then your test results are only numbers on a piece of paper and nothing more.

You are not wrong haha. On the fin my dht was in range at 60 but off just wasn't sure if that's dangerous having that high of levels especially with prostate health.

 

[CJ]

You are not wrong haha. On the fin my dht was in range at 60 but off just wasn't sure if that's dangerous having that high of levels especially with prostate health.

What's your PSA on your blood test? since you're concerned about your prostate.

 

[Bigbadwolf25]

What's your PSA on your blood test? since you're concerned about your prostate.

Don't think I've had that checked.

 

[Send0]

You are not wrong haha. On the fin my dht was in range at 60 but off just wasn't sure if that's dangerous having that high of levels especially with prostate health.

Did you ever get a baseline measurement for DHT before you started finasteride?

 

[Bigbadwolf25]

Did you ever get a baseline measurement for DHT before you started finasteride?

Yea it was 65.

 

[Send0]

Yea it was 65.

And what was your baseline testosterone relative to that measurement.

Are your testosterone levels the same now as when you got baseline measurements? Or are you on a cycle now, and were not on a cycle when you got baseline testing done?

 

[Bigbadwolf25]

And what was your baseline testosterone relative to that measurement.

Are your testosterone levels the same now as when you got baseline measurements? Or are you on a cycle now, and were not on a cycle when you got baseline testing done?

All tests were done on my trt dose of 150 mgs. Total t was the same basically. Slightly higher on fin as it increases test slightly I think

 

[Send0]

All tests were done on my trt dose of 150 mgs. Total t was the same basically. Slightly higher on fin as it increases test slightly I think

Very strange then that your DHT is higher now, than it was at baseline, when your dosage is exactly the same and you are taking no other compounds.

I have no advice for you, except go get your PSA checked like CJ suggested.

 

[Bigbadwolf25]

Very strange then that your DHT is higher now, than it was at baseline, when your dosage is exactly the same and you are taking no other compounds.

I have no advice for you, except go get your PSA checked like CJ suggested.

No dht is higher off fin my bad I thought you were talking about my test dose. Makes sense since fin lowers dht

 

[Send0]

No dht is higher off fin my bad I thought you were talking about my test dose. Makes sense since fin lowers dht

Sigh "Baseline" always means what was your test results before adding a drug. It means what results did you have "naturally".

With that said, I was asking the following:

1. Did you get baseline DHT measurements while on testosterone but before ever taking finasteride.

2. Was that baseline DHT measurement, again before ever starting finasteride, done with the same dosage of testosterone that you are taking now?

3. Are you on any other drugs or medication that we should know about?

If you never got baseline measurements, which I don't believe you did based on your previous responses, then your test results you attached in this post are pretty much meaningless and useless.

For all you know, this level of DHT is natural for your body...but you'll never know now because it sounds like you didn't get baseline readings prior to starting finasteride.

If you did get DHT readings while on TRT, but before starting finasteride, then please tell us those results.

 

[muscleboundzz]

If yes then do what you think is necessary... If the answer is no you are not experiencing problems then your test results are only numbers on a piece of paper and nothing more.

I don't agree with this at all as a general statement.

If I pull my own bloods and my liver enzymes are in the 500s, its not just numbers on a piece of paper. It needs to be checked out and addressed, even if I am not experiencing symptoms or problems.

In the current context of this thread, I agree with you though.

 

[Bro Bundy]

I don't agree with this at all as a general statement.

If I pull my own bloods and my liver enzymes are in the 500s, its not just numbers on a piece of paper. It needs to be checked out and addressed, even if I am not experiencing symptoms or problems.

In the current context of this thread, I agree with you though.

ya but a bad liver will kill u what will high dht do?

 

[Bigbadwolf25]

Sigh "Baseline" always means what was your test results before adding a drug. It means what results did you have "naturally".

With that said, I was asking the following:

1. Did you get baseline DHT measurements while on testosterone but before ever taking finasteride.

2. Was that baseline DHT measurement, again before ever starting finasteride, done with the same dosage of testosterone that you are taking now?

3. Are you on any other drugs or medication that we should know about?

If you never got baseline measurements, which I don't believe you did based on your previous responses, then your test results you attached in this post are pretty much meaningless and useless.

For all you know, this level of DHT is natural for your body...but you'll never know now because it sounds like you didn't get baseline readings prior to starting finasteride.

If you did get DHT readings while on TRT, but before starting finasteride, then please tell us those results.

1. Yes came back at 115.
2. Same thing I'm always on 150 mgs test so dht level was 115
3. Just bp med, test and fin

Only when I went on fin was my level 65.

 

[Send0]

I don't agree with this at all as a general statement.

If I pull my own bloods and my liver enzymes are in the 500s, its not just numbers on a piece of paper. It needs to be checked out and addressed, even if I am not experiencing symptoms or problems.

Good job posting a very EXTREME example. If your AST or ALT was in the 500's then you'd definitely have symptoms... hell you'd probably be on your death bed.

If you have biomarker values that are JUST outside the range, while understanding that the range is not the same from one lab to another, then that value is near useless unless you have a baseline measurement to compare it against... or symptoms that agree with the rest results that something is definitely wrong.

In the current context of this thread, I agree with you though.

Then what was the point of your post?

 

[Send0]

1. Yes came back at 115.
2. Same thing I'm always on 150 mgs test so dht level was 115
3. Just bp med, test and fin

Only when I went on fin was my level 65.

Then this reading is 100% normal for you. If you're concerned, then go talk to a doctor.

 

[muscleboundzz]

Dude, you seem paranoid with type of stuff you post.

As usual, the first question is do you actually have a problem you are experiencing?

If yes then do what you think is necessary... If the answer is no you are not experiencing problems then your test results are only numbers on a piece of paper and nothing more.

Then what was the point of your post?

It seemed to me that you were making a general statement in your response to the initial poster as it appears perhaps he worries about test results too much.

Maybe my assumption was wrong but in any case the comment you made in your last sentence of that response immediately made me think of the example with the liver enzymes which actually did happen where the person did not have symptoms and was wondering if they should see a doc.

Essentially I was giving my opinion based on the way I perceived your response.

 

[goodfella]

Finastride is some nasty strong stuff that has a long dark history of messing with other hormone levels. It won't effect everyone the same (in a negative way) but some reports out there of it really messing with hormones.

If you're worried about hair shedding, looking into Nizoral Shampoo. It's not as strong as finasteride but something less harsh on the overall hormones if availablel. It can help protect or grow new hairs with continued use, but not at the level of say fina/dust.

Also apparently your free test levels can be increased by finasteride, because the finasteride is blocking the conversion of free test to DHT, hence less being converted, ends up leaving more free test in the body. So they possibly skyrocketed back up high from the free test that wasn't converted to dht it sounds like if Im following correctly.

 

[Send0]

It seemed to me that you were making a general statement in your response to the initial poster as it appears perhaps he worries about test results too much.

I'm replying to a very specific member, on a very specific post concerned about a specific thing. This member has a history of being worried about something new what seems to be every other week.

I mentioned he seems paranoid, and proceeded to answer his question the same as I always do.

These are two separate things that I happened to write in a single response. You're reading too much into it.

Maybe my assumption was wrong but in any case the comment you made in your last sentence of that response immediately made me think of the example with the liver enzymes which actually did happen where the person did not have symptoms and was wondering if they should see a doc.

I don't believe someone has liver enzymes in the 500s with no symptoms. At a minimum a person would feel very worn down and fatigued. Your example doesn't seem legitimate under the context of absolutely no symptoms, and seemed to be extreme on purpose just for you to make some arbitrary point.

Essentially I was giving my opinion based on the way I perceived your response.

Okay. I perceived you joined 38 minutes ago and that you decided to start swinging your dick for no reason. We all have our perceptions bud