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Does the programming for the PPL he gave you at least look good? Did he ask you what exercises you like, and try to incorporate them?
 

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I've never heard of this "priming your body to grow" concept. Can someone please explain?
 

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I've never heard of this "priming your body to grow" concept. Can someone please explain?
The thought that the leaner you are, the more growth will go towards muscle tissue and not fat, thus you can bulk for longer.

Although I believe that recent studies have given evidence to suggest that that is untrue. I've been hearing talk of that lately, but I may be wrong.
 

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I’m over the self-absorbed money-grabber.

Im ready to get serious about putting on healthy size. @Spear , could you help me develop a diet for next week?
 

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It kind of sounds like he's shaping you for what he finds ideal, not what you, the client wants. Id start shopping. Your paying him, he's there to get you to where you wanna be
Exactly. I feel he's nickel and diming when he says he likes to take the long route. What does that mean from a working out perspective?
 

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The thought that the leaner you are, the more growth will go towards muscle tissue and not fat, thus you can bulk for longer.

Although I believe that recent studies have given evidence to suggest that that is untrue. I've been hearing talk of that lately, but I may be wrong.
I believe the thought behind this is that the leaner you are, the more insulin sensitive you are
 

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@dted23 see how sensitive this guy is to being asked even the most basic of questions? So defensive when you just want to understand the direction he's taking you.

He spent more time defending, and then blaming you to boot, than it would've taken to just answer you. That should have taken him 5-7 minutes to craft a response and address your questions.
 

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@dted23 see how sensitive this guy is to being asked even the most basic of questions? So defensive when you just want to understand the direction he's taking you.

He spent more time defending, and then blaming you to boot, than it would've taken to just answer you. That should have taken him 5-7 minutes to craft a response and address your questions.
I even fell on my own sword at the end, to see whether he’d accept an apology.

I knew he would like be a bit of a tool, but I also figured I could handle that, he knows enough to look great himself. A few people he coaches look great.

But by his own admission, I’m 90% ahead of most of his clients.

Ill prob take a step back, stick to linear progression at high reps and follow closely to Spear’s diet.
 

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One thing, he’s not wrong about, I’d log workouts and list in the comments “didn’t hit top set, but really wore out today, personal drama” or “pushed harder, got rest and feeling better than last week”.

He said “listen dude, I don’t care what goes on in your life, I have stuff too. But I show up and get stuff done; take ownership for what you do, don’t blame it on other stuff.”

It was a jerk move, but he’s right, I’ve been an emotional wreck and I’ve let it soak into a mess up my weeks. Some friends stopped texting me because I was being moody or avoidant.

I need to do better. Reign it in, stop sharing, and suck it up.
 

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One thing, he’s not wrong about, I’d log workouts and list in the comments “didn’t hit top set, but really wore out today, personal drama” or “pushed harder, got rest and feeling better than last week”.

He said “listen dude, I don’t care what goes on in your life, I have stuff too. But I show up and get stuff done; take ownership for what you do, don’t blame it on other stuff.”

It was a jerk move, but he’s right, I’ve been an emotional wreck and I’ve let it soak into a mess up my weeks. Some friends stopped texting me because I was being moody or avoidant.

I need to do better. Reign it in, stop sharing, and suck it up.
Sharing is fine... bottling it in is bad. Share with a group who wants to hear from you and talk through what your struggling with. Spare anyone else the details.
 

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One thing, he’s not wrong about, I’d log workouts and list in the comments “didn’t hit top set, but really wore out today, personal drama” or “pushed harder, got rest and feeling better than last week”.

He said “listen dude, I don’t care what goes on in your life, I have stuff too. But I show up and get stuff done; take ownership for what you do, don’t blame it on other stuff.”

It was a jerk move, but he’s right, I’ve been an emotional wreck and I’ve let it soak into a mess up my weeks. Some friends stopped texting me because I was being moody or avoidant.

I need to do better. Reign it in, stop sharing, and suck it up.
You can share that person issues are interfering with sleep or something like that. It's good info as far as recovery goes.

A coach isn't on the other hand supposed to allow you to detour from what's needed to get you to the goals you're paying them to reach.

His method of saying it like a cunt doesn't get you far with most people. I prefer to ask questions.

"Do you want the shit you're going through today to inhibit your progress toward tomorrow?" And things of that nature.
 

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Dude responded;
“I don’t think I’m the right fit to be your coach. I think there isn’t trust in either direction. I wish you the best and will refund half of the month.”

That’s fair. Lesson learned. I’ll take my time and maybe try a different coach, ask more questions and see what their coaching strategy looks like first.

I signed up for this guy because I liked what I thought would be immediacy, I wanted to commit to a plan ASAP because I was floundering. I’m doing a bit better, found I can largely stick to a meal plan.

I want to bulk, add size, but even if I’m the lightest and leanest I’ve ever been (even if my dysmorphia says ‘ur smol’) I know I’m in the best shape ever still.

Im gonna hold to that.

Im in my best shape EVER, but the goal is to keep growing. So grow, I will.

 

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Dude responded;
“I don’t think I’m the right fit to be your coach. I think there isn’t trust in either direction. I wish you the best and will refund half of the month.”

That’s fair. Lesson learned. I’ll take my time and maybe try a different coach, ask more questions and see what their coaching strategy looks like first.

I signed up for this guy because I liked what I thought would be immediacy, I wanted to commit to a plan ASAP because I was floundering. I’m doing a bit better, found I can largely stick to a meal plan.

I want to bulk, add size, but even if I’m the lightest and leanest I’ve ever been (even if my dysmorphia says ‘ur smol’) I know I’m in the best shape ever still.

Im gonna hold to that.

Im in my best shape EVER, but the goal is to keep growing. So grow, I will.

Not everyone is a perfect match, don't be discouraged. You'll find someone that you connect with better.
 

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Dude responded;
“I don’t think I’m the right fit to be your coach. I think there isn’t trust in either direction. I wish you the best and will refund half of the month.”

That’s fair. Lesson learned. I’ll take my time and maybe try a different coach, ask more questions and see what their coaching strategy looks like first.

I signed up for this guy because I liked what I thought would be immediacy, I wanted to commit to a plan ASAP because I was floundering. I’m doing a bit better, found I can largely stick to a meal plan.

I want to bulk, add size, but even if I’m the lightest and leanest I’ve ever been (even if my dysmorphia says ‘ur smol’) I know I’m in the best shape ever still.

Im gonna hold to that.

Im in my best shape EVER, but the goal is to keep growing. So grow, I will.

Not all coaches and clients are a good fit for one another. This is common I think.

If you want a coach to develop a structured plan for you, then I think you need someone like what @The Phoenix has. I believe he sees his coach in person a few times per month... if my memory is correct then I think he was paying $50 per session? That would make it easy to be able to communicate and get on the same page.
 

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Dude responded;
“I don’t think I’m the right fit to be your coach. I think there isn’t trust in either direction. I wish you the best and will refund half of the month.”

That’s fair. Lesson learned. I’ll take my time and maybe try a different coach, ask more questions and see what their coaching strategy looks like first.

I signed up for this guy because I liked what I thought would be immediacy, I wanted to commit to a plan ASAP because I was floundering. I’m doing a bit better, found I can largely stick to a meal plan.

I want to bulk, add size, but even if I’m the lightest and leanest I’ve ever been (even if my dysmorphia says ‘ur smol’) I know I’m in the best shape ever still.

Im gonna hold to that.

Im in my best shape EVER, but the goal is to keep growing. So grow, I will.


That is something. I have ne’er heard a coach recommend not training anymore. I know when I was contemplating my coach would go there an convince me, some things do take time, but you also have to be moving in the right direction. Like you said you want to be bulking now, not next year. You know your body; this turkey hasn’t even met you to understand how you body reacts. That’s why I still hire in person.


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Not all coaches and clients are a good fit for one another. This is common I think.

If you want a coach to develop a structured plan for you, then I think you need someone like what @The Phoenix has. I believe he sees his coach in person a few times per month... if my memory is correct then I think he was paying $50 per session? That would make it easy to be able to communicate and get on the same page.

My coach is charging $25/sesh but is giving me a deal if I paid all up front of $170/month for 8 sessions/2 sessions per week split with one day in between. That is enough to wear you out and train well for that week. This week and next week I am taking a break after 5 months straight training and in order for me to get acclimated to my new work schedule.


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My coach was charging $25/sesh but was giving me a deal if I paid all up front of $170/month for 8 sessions/2 sessions per week split with one day in between. That is enough to wear you out and train well for that week. This week and next week I am taking a break after 5 months straight training and in order for me to get acclimated to my new work schedule.


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$25 a session is an incredible deal!

How did you find your coach? Any tips you can give dted for coach hunting?
 
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