First Dianabol Cycle Tips

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I'm starting a first DBol cycle next week after years of nat supplements that haven't gotten results. In scouring info here, plan is:

** 20 mg/day for 4-6 weeks
** .5 mg/day armidex

Questions:

** should i ease in with 4 weeks or would 6 be fine?
** anything else in stack?
** what should first PCT look like - test? 4-6 weeks? Preciate the guidance!
 

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Where is the testosterone in this cycle ? You do know dbol only is pointless
 
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Thx. Best test to stack in first cycle? Any oral varieties?

If you're scared of needles, this hobby/lifestyle isn't for you.

And dianabol only is a dumb cycle. It's pointless, you'll get no gains besides water weight, maybe a little gyno, possible high blood pressure, etc...
 
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Get an automatic injector. Google 90 super grip auto injector. Go to the lab get a baseline for your liver and testosterone. There’s a great article in here on bloodwork. Do some research in here about testosterone as well. If your running a strictly dbol cycle at that low mg with no test you may not need any adex at all.
 
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I'm starting a first DBol cycle next week after years of nat supplements that haven't gotten results. In scouring info here, plan is:

** 20 mg/day for 4-6 weeks
** .5 mg/day armidex

Questions:

** should i ease in with 4 weeks or would 6 be fine?
** anything else in stack?
** what should first PCT look like - test? 4-6 weeks? Preciate the guidance!
You should us some test. Just a trt dose even. X the ARIMIDEX and use a SERM. You do not need to use an AI.

Ais are so over used. Usually guys hurt their progress more than help using ais.

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Get an automatic injector. Google 90 super grip auto injector. Go to the lab get a baseline for your liver and testosterone. There’s a great article in here on bloodwork. Do some research in here about testosterone as well. If your running a strictly dbol cycle at that low mg with no test you may not need any adex at all.
He may not need anything to control gyno. But, he may. DBOL, even at that dose, if estro sensitive, is one of the worst for arometization.

He doesn't know so he can either use nothing and see. If gyno starts to develop he can use a little letro and get rid of it then switch to a SERM. Or be safe and take a SERM from the start.

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You should us some test. Just a trt dose even. X the ARIMIDEX and use a SERM. You do not need to use an AI.

Ais are so over used. Usually guys hurt their progress more than help using ais.

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Would you only say to ever use a SERM, and never an Ai?

What if one was a high aromatizer, let's say their bloodwork had their estradiol at 200 pg/ml. Wouldn't you say that in a case like that, an AI would be the better call, to get the levels back down to an acceptable level?

I agree with using a SERM if one is especially estrogen sensitive, especially if their estradiol level is not high.

I see it as being a right tool for the job, kind of thing.
 

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All I know for sure is all that changes with age , in my 20s I got itchy nips walking past some one on Drol or Dbol , and now at almost 60 I can use that shit for salad dressing with no AI or SERM and nothing nada zip zilch ,,, my tits are dead.
 
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All I know for sure is all that changes with age , in my 20s I got itchy nips walking past some one on Drol or Dbol , and now at almost 60 I can use that shit for salad dressing with no AI or SERM and nothing nada zip zilch ,,, my tits are dead.
Lol. I am kind of shocked you just posted that because I've been meaning to mention the same exact thing for a while.

I started competing at 17 and started using steroids at 17. From then through my entire bodybuilding career, until 2002, I got gyno if I looked at a bottle of test wrong without a blocker.

Now I'm 51. I do not get gyno anymore from anything without using anything as a blocker or ai.

Just proof of how much everything changed as you age.

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Would you only say to ever use a SERM, and never an Ai?

What if one was a high aromatizer, let's say their bloodwork had their estradiol at 200 pg/ml. Wouldn't you say that in a case like that, an AI would be the better call, to get the levels back down to an acceptable level?

I agree with using a SERM if one is especially estrogen sensitive, especially if their estradiol level is not high.

I see it as being a right tool for the job, kind of thing.
You can use an AI. The problem is using an AI without monitoring your estrogen blood levels. If you do that you can use an AI and not have your estrogen go too low. It's just a pain but if you are willing to do it then it's fine.

Problem is using an AI without doing this. Lowering estrogen too much, which is easy to do with any ai, causes a bunch of unwanted issues.

Also, if you compete ais are great at the end to dry out. Lower estrogen to about nothing but only for 48 hours or so.

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If you're scared of needles, this hobby/lifestyle isn't for you.

And dianabol only is a dumb cycle. It's pointless, you'll get no gains besides water weight, maybe a little gyno, possible high blood pressure, etc...
That's very true. You can't use steroids successfully and not inject them. Unless you schedule your liver transplant now.

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You can use an AI. The problem is using an AI without monitoring your estrogen blood levels. If you do that you can use an AI and not have your estrogen go too low. It's just a pain but if you are willing to do it then it's fine.

Problem is using an AI without doing this. Lowering estrogen too much, which is easy to do with any ai, causes a bunch of unwanted issues.

Also, if you compete ais are great at the end to dry out. Lower estrogen to about nothing but only for 48 hours or so.

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That's why most of us recommend bloodwok, especially when learning how our bodies respond to new compounds.

Assess, don't guess.
 

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That's very true. You can't use steroids successfully and not inject them. Unless you schedule your liver transplant now.

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The hepatotoxicity of (most) oral steroids is vastly overblown.

Anadrol is prescribed at doses that bodybuilders would never even dream of for up to six months at a time, for example.
 
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That's very true. You can't use steroids successfully and not inject them. Unless you schedule your liver transplant now.

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And come on, really. Scared of injections??

Man up, come on.

Just get yourself some sterile syringes, a bigger gauge like a 22 to draw and inject with a 25. The needle is very thin. Do it correctly it's nothing. After 2 3 weeks you'll laugh at yourself.

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I'm starting a first DBol cycle next week after years of nat supplements that haven't gotten results. In scouring info here, plan is:

** 20 mg/day for 4-6 weeks
** .5 mg/day armidex

Questions:

** should i ease in with 4 weeks or would 6 be fine?
** anything else in stack?
** what should first PCT look like - test? 4-6 weeks? Preciate the guidance!
First dianabol cycle tips are I hope you didn’t do a cycle of dianabol!!!
 
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