How close should someone's DB shoulder press be to their DB bench press?

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For example, let's make the math easy and say a man can bench 100 pound dumbbells for a full set of 10 reps. This is the heaviest he can bench for a full set.

What weight of dumbbells should he be able to shoulder press for the same amount of reps? At what point is his shoulder press lagging too far behind his bench press?
 

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Depends upon shoulder mobility. Many people simply can't overhead press properly, they lack the range of motion.

Also, as the db's get heavier, just getting them up to your shoulders becomes a pain in the ass.
 

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Depends upon shoulder mobility. Many people simply can't overhead press properly, they lack the range of motion.

Also, as the db's get heavier, just getting them up to your shoulders becomes a pain in the ass.
when you trained with db's what was the % for you?
 

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My seated dumbbell overhead press and my flat dumbbell bench press are almost the same...
 

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My seated dumbbell overhead press and my flat dumbbell bench press are almost the same...
Same, we only go up to 100,s I can get it for the chest but only up to the 90s for the overhead shoulder press. I tried the hundos the other day.... failed... then of course waited about 2 min and tried again thinking maybe I gained more power.... but no I failed again
 

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My seated dumbbell overhead press and my flat dumbbell bench press are almost the same...

Do you think that's normal? And do you think there's an outer limit where that becomes impossible?
 
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My BB OH press is like 190lbs if I'm lucky.
My DB OH Press is over 100's for reps.

Dumbbells just feel better 🤷‍♂️
 

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Depends upon shoulder mobility. Many people simply can't overhead press properly, they lack the range of motion.

Also, as the db's get heavier, just getting them up to your shoulders becomes a pain in the ass.

I bailed on DB shoulder presses rather quickly, because it was a pain in the ass to get them up properly to the shoulders. So much energy was wasted just getting them into position. I went to machines.
 
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I bailed on DB shoulder presses rather quickly, because it was a pain in the ass to get them up properly to the shoulders. So much energy was wasted just getting them into position. I went to machines.
Did you not do the Knee-Dumbbell-Calf Jump-Snatch combo? Launching it off my knee is the only way them things is getting up there
 
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Kind of. I'd use a knee to bump them up, but it always felt bad in my elbow doing that, and decided that it just wasn't worth it.
I never understood why big guys had people pick up their DBs for them. Now I'm seeing how much tendonitis can flare up just from having to pick up and position DBs.
 

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I never understood why big guys had people pick up their DBs for them. Now I'm seeing how much tendonitis can flare up just from having to pick up and position DBs.

Yeah, and couple that with that as the DB's get heavier, they get larger in size, too. You lose ROM as they get bigger, because they wind up hitting your shoulders sooner. You can't go as deep.
 

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Do you think that's normal? And do you think there's an outer limit where that becomes impossible?
DB shoulder press should be EXACTLY 82.7% or flat DB press.

Any deviation from that ratio makes you a cuck.
 

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At my peak they were about the same.
 

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Do you think that's normal? And do you think there's an outer limit where that becomes impossible?
I dont think its "Normal" as in the "average person should experience similar".
I dont think its abnormal either though.

Personally my overhead pressing has always been proportionally very strong for me.
the average person will have a significantly stronger flat press than seated overhead, its just not the case for me or my leverages
 

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