StillKickin
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Hello to everyone. I introduced myself to everyone a couple of days ago on the Introduction Forum, and got lots of appreciated "welcome to ug" reply's. Thank you.
But DF recommended I get right over here and post my protocol which was my plan from day one. I'll skip explaining much about myself as it's pretty well outlined on my profile and in my introduction. But please ask me more if you'd like, my life has been kind of interesting.
I had reached out to a clinic to start this journey as I don't believe my primary is up to speed with this. He's a good doc but old school and I live in a very rural part of the country. I had never had a doctor in my life, so by the time I turned 40 I had a short list of things I'd been tracking and wondering about, my T being one of them.
My family uses this doctor so I decide he's the guy. I let him know that I had decided it was time "For someone to chronicle my slow dive into the shitsville of getting older", we laughed good on that one.
One thing we discussed was my concern of my T levels and I wanted them checked (And among other things was the "What the frig is this thing growing on my toe doc, lord please chop that thing off!!!!", another good laugh).
But back then I had very little understanding of what I was even asking for. Doc orders tests, and we review them. All he ask for was Total T, I remember it being in the very low but normal range. So the conversation dies there. I mean hell it's "normal" right!!! Must be other reasons your libido sucks, your tired, can't focus, don't rest, get cranky, and just have general lack of enthusiasm for life, loosing strength in the gym slowly for years, etc. So let's get to my recently begun TRT journey.
Initial labs below, if I don't mention a result it's because it was within range and normal. But if I need to elaborate just let me know. This BW was drawn on 4/18/16.
Total T 338, low.
Free T 5.0, low.
LH 5.7, mid\high normal.
FSH 6.4, mid range.
E2 14.6, mid\low normal.
LDL 125, hi. Always has been.
HDL 44.
Thyroids all normal with hematocrit at 43%
PSA .9
IGF-1 181.
Clinic prescribed protocol below. First injection 4/26/16
100mg T cyp, 50mg T prop on day one and day 4, I split this perfectly at 3.5 days now.
HCG 500 units, Anastrozole .5mg day after each T pin.
LIPOLEAN 3X week, an option I chose myself.
Ok so your thinking Good God almighty........300mg a week straight out of the gate.......yeah I figured this would have me howling at the moon, but to date that is not happening. My results have been mixed in that it has taken until now to get what I will say is a consistent improvement of about 30% overall. So this is nothing like results I read about from new TRT patients feeling 20 again. But I'm patient and certainly willing to adjust and learn.
Second set of BW below, taken 5/16/16.
Total T 1072.
Free T 22.7.
E2 23.3, should mention that both BW E2 tests were not sensitive but Roche.
HDL 38, moved lower.
LDL 126, moved higher.
PSA 1.3
Hematocrit 45.7
Platelets 383, moved higher.
So that's my story for now.
Thank you to everyone that will comment or reach out to me. Whatever I failed to include to be helpful here please let me know.
I want to also ask about anyone here that suffers from migraines and if relief was found while on TRT. I do have them, most days actually, and have run the track of docs, pills, neurologist, and treatments with no relief. Funny thing on the botox treatments they use for migraines now, they give you shots up and down your traps, "oh shit I thought............this stuff is gonna wreck my traps!!!!!". So I ask the doc if he had to go so far along the trap and near the delts, he said don't worry it won't effect your workouts..........woo thank God I thought.
Then when I decided to help myself I found 2 great studies found both migraine and cluster headache sufferers found relief with T therapy. So it was like hot damn, maybe I can feel better overall, and shoot my daily headaches right in the ass too.
I'd like to add that may main goal currently is to get back to being the old me. I refuse to let my wife, my children, my career, and myself down. So far I had been able to do that, but the effort it took to simply remain the man I once was had become just about all I had. And well.........**** that, if I can help myself I am going to do that. Mediocrity is not something I'm comfortable with.
I'll be honest as well about this, after finding my sweet spot with TRT. If I can safely cycle a couple of times a year I will do that. Almost got involved about 15 years ago with it but decided not to. Now that my understanding has and is growing I'm considering it.
Allright everyone thank you for reading such a long winded post.
But DF recommended I get right over here and post my protocol which was my plan from day one. I'll skip explaining much about myself as it's pretty well outlined on my profile and in my introduction. But please ask me more if you'd like, my life has been kind of interesting.
I had reached out to a clinic to start this journey as I don't believe my primary is up to speed with this. He's a good doc but old school and I live in a very rural part of the country. I had never had a doctor in my life, so by the time I turned 40 I had a short list of things I'd been tracking and wondering about, my T being one of them.
My family uses this doctor so I decide he's the guy. I let him know that I had decided it was time "For someone to chronicle my slow dive into the shitsville of getting older", we laughed good on that one.
One thing we discussed was my concern of my T levels and I wanted them checked (And among other things was the "What the frig is this thing growing on my toe doc, lord please chop that thing off!!!!", another good laugh).
But back then I had very little understanding of what I was even asking for. Doc orders tests, and we review them. All he ask for was Total T, I remember it being in the very low but normal range. So the conversation dies there. I mean hell it's "normal" right!!! Must be other reasons your libido sucks, your tired, can't focus, don't rest, get cranky, and just have general lack of enthusiasm for life, loosing strength in the gym slowly for years, etc. So let's get to my recently begun TRT journey.
Initial labs below, if I don't mention a result it's because it was within range and normal. But if I need to elaborate just let me know. This BW was drawn on 4/18/16.
Total T 338, low.
Free T 5.0, low.
LH 5.7, mid\high normal.
FSH 6.4, mid range.
E2 14.6, mid\low normal.
LDL 125, hi. Always has been.
HDL 44.
Thyroids all normal with hematocrit at 43%
PSA .9
IGF-1 181.
Clinic prescribed protocol below. First injection 4/26/16
100mg T cyp, 50mg T prop on day one and day 4, I split this perfectly at 3.5 days now.
HCG 500 units, Anastrozole .5mg day after each T pin.
LIPOLEAN 3X week, an option I chose myself.
Ok so your thinking Good God almighty........300mg a week straight out of the gate.......yeah I figured this would have me howling at the moon, but to date that is not happening. My results have been mixed in that it has taken until now to get what I will say is a consistent improvement of about 30% overall. So this is nothing like results I read about from new TRT patients feeling 20 again. But I'm patient and certainly willing to adjust and learn.
Second set of BW below, taken 5/16/16.
Total T 1072.
Free T 22.7.
E2 23.3, should mention that both BW E2 tests were not sensitive but Roche.
HDL 38, moved lower.
LDL 126, moved higher.
PSA 1.3
Hematocrit 45.7
Platelets 383, moved higher.
So that's my story for now.
Thank you to everyone that will comment or reach out to me. Whatever I failed to include to be helpful here please let me know.
I want to also ask about anyone here that suffers from migraines and if relief was found while on TRT. I do have them, most days actually, and have run the track of docs, pills, neurologist, and treatments with no relief. Funny thing on the botox treatments they use for migraines now, they give you shots up and down your traps, "oh shit I thought............this stuff is gonna wreck my traps!!!!!". So I ask the doc if he had to go so far along the trap and near the delts, he said don't worry it won't effect your workouts..........woo thank God I thought.
Then when I decided to help myself I found 2 great studies found both migraine and cluster headache sufferers found relief with T therapy. So it was like hot damn, maybe I can feel better overall, and shoot my daily headaches right in the ass too.
I'd like to add that may main goal currently is to get back to being the old me. I refuse to let my wife, my children, my career, and myself down. So far I had been able to do that, but the effort it took to simply remain the man I once was had become just about all I had. And well.........**** that, if I can help myself I am going to do that. Mediocrity is not something I'm comfortable with.
I'll be honest as well about this, after finding my sweet spot with TRT. If I can safely cycle a couple of times a year I will do that. Almost got involved about 15 years ago with it but decided not to. Now that my understanding has and is growing I'm considering it.
Allright everyone thank you for reading such a long winded post.
