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staying off for 20 weeks I ran a sust, deca, dbol cycle for 10 weeks. Stayed on just sust for 2 and than switched to test p and tren ace for 4 week finish to cut back the water weight and fat I had gained from the cycle. I lost
You have the right idea, but imo, you should have used test cyp or enanthate, rather than sustanon. Sust has fast release esters, but most releases slow.

I have used a lot of dbol over the years and going off dbol is almost like going off cycle I don't care what you are running. I think long term it is useless. The gains last as long as you use it. I'm not saying I don't like it, I love it. It just gives very short term gains.

You will do better for yourself running simple cycles. Next time around post your cycle and get some opinions.

Like I said you have the right idea. Good luck.
 
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You literally just replied to my first post about energy expenditure with "except for DNP".

And you won't die from eating the wrong thing while on DNP. You die from DNP because a person can't tolerate it at all or can't tolerate the dosage; it is basically poison after all... the type of food you eat has nothing to do with the potential cause of death. 😂

Please just stop saying things while you're ahead 🤣🤣🤣.
I think you are one straw clutching ignorant fcuk, dmp will literally melt fat off you and if you do eat the wrong stuff it can cause fatalities, obviously dosage is going to be a factor, but don't worry we've got the Sherlock Holmes of bodybuilding now .:ROFLMAO:🤣🤣
 

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I think you are one straw clutching ignorant fcuk,
You're the guy who doesn't know how rubber stoppers on a vial work. https://www.ugbodybuilding.com/threads/test-viles.49097/#post-1041865

You're also the same guy that joined and immediately started talking shit about our members, calling them snowflakes. Looks to me like the only sensitive snowflake here is you.

dmp will literally melt fat off you and if you do eat the wrong stuff it can cause fatalities, obviously dosage is going to be a factor, but don't worry we've got the Sherlock Holmes of bodybuilding now .:ROFLMAO:🤣🤣
My god you're stupid AF. You keep typing dmp, when it's DNP (Dinitrophenol). And eating the "wrong stuff" isn't what kills you. Are you trying to advertise that you're a stupid fuck, because that's all you're telling everyone here.

Since you're so smart, why don't you tell me what the "wrong stuff" is that will kill you if you eat it while running DNP? Then explain to me, in DETAIL, why those specific foods will kill you while on DNP?

Let's be honest... You couldn't figure out how a fucking rubber stopper in a vial worked... you sure as fuck don't understand how DNP works.
 

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You're the guy who doesn't know how rubber stoppers on a vial work. https://www.ugbodybuilding.com/threads/test-viles.49097/#post-1041865

You're also the same guy that joined and immediately started talking shit about our members, calling them snowflakes. Looks to me like the only sensitive snowflake here is you.


My god you're stupid AF. You keep typing dmp, when it's DNP (Dinitrophenol). And eating the "wrong stuff" isn't what kills you. Are you trying to advertise that you're a stupid fuck, because that's all you're telling everyone here.

Since you're so smart, why don't you tell me what the "wrong stuff" is that will kill you if you eat it while running DNP? Then explain to me, in DETAIL, why those specific foods will kill you while on DNP?

Let's be honest... You couldn't figure out how a fucking rubber stopper in a vial worked... you sure as fuck don't understand how DNP works.
Guarantee if you go into , uncoupling , he will tell you hes not worried about that cus he's single.
 

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Guarantee if you go into , uncoupling , he will tell you hes not worried about that cus he's single.
I thought about explaining how DNP actually works, discussing ATP suppression, mitochondrial decoupling, thermodynamics (yes it applies for those that done know), effects to thyroid hormones, etc. and how that all comes together to affect the base metabolic rate.... in addition to how it changes the bodies fuel source preference.

Then I reread the post and decided this guy wasn't worth educating since he's already a know it all.

Careful Yano, don't eat the wrong foods or you'll die! It's definitely the type of food you eat that kills you, and not the fact that DNP is a poison and perfectly capable of killing you on its own 😂
 

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I thought about explaining how DNP actually works, discussing ATP suppression, mitochondrial decoupling, thermodynamics (yes it applies for those that done know), effects to thyroid hormones, etc. and how that all comes together to effect the base metabolic rate.... in addition to how it changes the bodies fuel source preference.

Then I reread the post and decided this guy wasn't worth educating since he's already a know it all.

Careful Yano, don't eat the wrong foods or you'll die! It's definitely the type of food you eat that kills you, and not the fact that DNP is a poison and perfectly capable of killing you on its own 😂
"You might as well ask a horse to fix a merry-go-round, he'll do his best, but mostly he'll just get horrified"
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@FlipBobz321 Also, you're banned for breaking rule #1. Come back when you know how to interact with people like an adult. We don't cater to overly sensitive man babies or children here.
That’s the pot calling the kettle black lol.....you can dish it but you can not take it...don't poke a lion with a stick if you are not prepared to be bitten!!
 
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"You might as well ask a horse to fix a merry-go-round, he'll do his best, but mostly he'll just get horrified"
Rick Sanchez
I thought about explaining how DNP actually works, discussing ATP suppression, mitochondrial decoupling, thermodynamics (yes it applies for those that done know), effects to thyroid hormones, etc. and how that all comes together to affect the base metabolic rate.... in addition to how it changes the bodies fuel source preference.

Then I reread the post and decided this guy wasn't worth educating since he's already a know it all.

Careful Yano, don't eat the wrong foods or you'll die! It's definitely the type of food you eat that kills you, and not the fact that DNP is a poison and perfectly capable of killing you on its own 😂
you need a re education....i get banned because you cry like a baby...I know I am right abut DNP....and i bet you were one of those silly tw@ts that thought you needed a test base with dbol ... "underground steroid forum" lol more like the underground sheep society! It's even shit to type on you can't put the cursor in the right spot...lol ...I spoke to people on here and they are just after sources..they don't even used the stuff...what a joke!
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That’s the pot calling the kettle black lol.....you can dish it but you can not take it...don't poke a lion with a stick if you are not prepared to be bitten!!
Dude, I don't care about people who are stupid or beneath me 😂. I didn't even think about you the entire time you were gone, but clearly you've been fuming and letting me live rent free in your head over something trivial 🤣🤣🤣.

So you talked shit, took a temp ban vacation, come back and immediately talk more shit? Are you stupid or something?

The ego you have to think you actually phase me 🤣🤣🤣. You literally broke the rules dumbass, that's why you got banned.

You're on track to get banned again. Keep it up.
 

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you need a re education....i get banned because you cry like a baby...I know I am right abut DNP....and i bet you were one of those silly tw@ts that thought you needed a test base with dbol ... "underground steroid forum" lol more like the underground sheep society! It's even shit to type on you can't put the cursor in the right spot...lol ...I spoke to people on here and they are just after sources..they don't even used the stuff...what a joke!
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You know you're right about DNP, yet you can't explain how it works? Even if you had an article that explained how DNP works, you would STILL explain it wrong. You can't even answer the question about which food will kill you on DNP, and it's because food isn't what causes death 🤣🤣🤣

Instead of accepting you are ignorant on the topic, shutting up, and sitting back and learning something, your fragile ego got hurt and you can't accept that you don't know something. People with this attitude never learn anything, and never make progress.

Go take dbol with no testosterone. Grow bitch tits, come here and post pics of your double Ds when you get them.😂

Also let's be honest, you've talked to a total of zero people privately about ANYTHING. Stop pretending that you're someone, no one knows you and no one cares about you 😂.

Want to be part of a community, then act like a normal person.
 
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You can't even answer the question about which food will kill you on DNP... It's because food isn't what kills a person, and also the fact that you don't know how it works. Even if you had an article that explained how DNP works, you would STILL explain it wrong.

Instead of accepting you are ignorant on the topic, shutting up, and sitting back and learning something, your fragile ego got hurt and you can't accept that you don't know something.

People with this attitude never learn anything, and never make progress.

Go take dbol with no testosterone. Grow bitch tits, come here and post pics of your double Ds when you get them.😂

Also let's be honest, you've talked to a total of zero people privately. Stop pretending that you're someone. 😂
You did not ask any question about dmp not that i saw anyway..nope you are ignorant, i have never made progress listening to dumbtards like you.......

you are the one that is fragile but don't worry you press your magic button that you wank over and you can ban me again...

"Go take dbol with no testosterone. Grow bitch tits" lol What a load of horse shit you are one dumb ignorant motherfucker if you think that is true. that is all dose dependant and adding test is only going to encourage gyno, what are you 12 or something using the word " bitch tits" ? grow up dude!

I couldn't be bothered ploughing through the rest of your meaningless shit..I think you should demote yourself from mod as you have no fking clue what you are talking about!
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You did not ask any question about dmp not that i saw anyway..nope you are ignorant, i have never made progress listening to dumbtards like you.......

you are the one that is fragile but don't worry you press your magic button that you wank over and you can ban me again...

"Go take dbol with no testosterone. Grow bitch tits" lol What a load of horse shit you are one dumb ignorant motherfucker if you think that is true. that is all dose dependant and adding test is only going to encourage gyno, what are you 12 or something using the word " bitch tits" ? grow up dude!

I couldn't be bothered ploughing through the rest of your meaningless shit..I think you should demote yourself from mod as you have no fking clue what you are talking about!
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The way you talk, you're one of 3 people.

Permanently banned for continuing to break rule #1. I eagerly await for you to make your next alt account.
 

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You mean you can’t just take dbol Sendo!
Really!?
Lol

Wow what a waste of screen space on that fucking guy
 

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Somehow, I managed to miss this entire thread until I stumbled across it now. Wow. I used DNP a bunch of years ago after months of reading about it. Tolerated it well, it worked, but I sure don't want to do it again.

When reading about it, I noticed a bunch of people think that it will "cook you from the inside out" and that eating carbs while using it dramatically escalate the internal cooking. Always fun to read stuff like that.
 

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Somehow, I managed to miss this entire thread until I stumbled across it now. Wow. I used DNP a bunch of years ago after months of reading about it. Tolerated it well, it worked, but I sure don't want to do it again.

When reading about it, I noticed a bunch of people think that it will "cook you from the inside out" and that eating carbs while using it dramatically escalate the internal cooking. Always fun to read stuff like that.

It's not "think", it's a fact. If you're rushed to the hospital, the only recourse they have is to throw you in an ice bath, in an attempt to keep your body temp down. Maybe you're not going to "cook", as in your flesh will be medium well done, but you certainly can die.

Carry on.
 

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How DNP affects body temperature: DNP prevents energy from being stored as fat, causing it to be released as heat. This can lead to hyperthermia, which can damage organs like the brain, kidneys, and muscles.

How high body temperature can get: DNP can cause body temperatures to rise as high as 111 °F (44 °C).

*** 111 degrees F internal body temp --- that's how you fucking cook from the inside out ***

Hyperthermia too fucking hot ,, the opposite of Hypothermia - can cause seizures, coma, kidney failure, muscle damage, and bone marrow failure.


How much DNP can be fatal: A dose of 10 to 20 milligrams per kilogram of body weight can be fatal.
 
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