Newb looking for advice

[Kraken]

It's not "think", it's a fact. If you're rushed to the hospital, the only recourse they have is to throw you in an ice bath, in an attempt to keep your body temp down. Maybe you're not going to "cook", as in your flesh will be medium well done, but you certainly can die.

Carry on.

Oh no doubt, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

 

[CJ]

Oh no doubt, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

My mistake. It appeared as though that you were dismissing the danger, as if it wasn't a concern.

 

[Kraken]

My mistake. It appeared as though that you were dismissing the danger, as if it wasn't a concern.

I just re-read what I wrote, and I can certainly see why you would interpret it that way. When talking about DNP, I should be more careful. I completely agree that the stuff is nothing to play with; it needs to be taken seriously and if used, used very carefully.

 

[Kn688]

How DNP affects body temperature: DNP prevents energy from being stored as fat, causing it to be released as heat. This can lead to hyperthermia, which can damage organs like the brain, kidneys, and muscles.

How high body temperature can get: DNP can cause body temperatures to rise as high as 111 °F (44 °C).

*** 111 degrees F internal body temp --- that's how you fucking cook from the inside out ***

Hyperthermia too fucking hot ,, the opposite of Hypothermia - can cause seizures, coma, kidney failure, muscle damage, and bone marrow failure.


How much DNP can be fatal: A dose of 10 to 20 milligrams per kilogram of body weight can be fatal.

This is why I don’t agree with fat people using it. They have no patience and will push the limits to achieve a quick result. they never learned to diet and train properly, so they’ll ultimately use it again. I believe it’s an effective tool that can be used in a somewhat safe manner. I rarely feel any heat from using it. Especially the first week. Towards the middle of the second week my core temperature is elevated when I eat anything including protein. I don’t believe anyone over 12% should touch it

 

[Kn688]

My mistake. It appeared as though that you were dismissing the danger, as if it wasn't a concern.

I don’t think it’s as bad as people make it out to be. I’m seeing several people posting about the heat it produces but no one is going in detail about the atp it affects. If mods want to ban me for sharing opinions and facts. I completely understand. I’m a mod myself on a couple of large forums. But I’m up to debate it with facts.

 

[Kraken]

I don’t think it’s as bad as people make it out to be.

Two thoughts. First, it's a tool and like all tools needs to be used properly. Second, it has side effects which impact some people and are quite serious, and these are often not discussed.

Regarding it being a tool, like any tool people need to know how to use it. The biggest thing people need to understand is that the half life is thought to be about 36 hours. This means if you take 100mg at noon on Monday, there is still 50mg in you at 11:59PM on Tuesday night. Most drugs (not that DNP is a drug) have a half life well under 24 hours so a daily dose does not build up over a week. This causes a person taking the same dose daily to experience a buildup in their body up to a certain maximum point, but much more than they realize. "Oh, that 100mg was nothing! Let me try 250mg today... Oh, that 250mg yesterday was barely noticeable, let's try 300mg today..." Suddenly you're in trouble.

As far as sides, in women it can cause cataracts. In all people it can cause peripheral neuropathy, which is long lasting and may be irreversible. By the time the pins and needles are felt, it's too late.

As far as the heat and general unwell feeling, the night sweats and so on, I'm sure for some people its not so bad, especially if you don't run much. But for some people who are unlucky, or don't understand that it builds up, it can be quite bad.

UPDATE: I understand that what I wrote is well known by many, especially members here. I add it for the person who might run across the thread new to DNP and looking for info.

 

[snake]

If mods want to ban me for sharing opinions and facts. I completely understand. I’m a mod myself on a couple of large forums. But I’m up to debate it with facts.

We're not a forum that censors their members. You get the boot from here, you really did your best to be an asshole.

 

[someguy22922]

In just your 3rd cycle, you took more drugs than I ever have.

You're going to fuck yourself up.

You're 2nd cycle should've been a repeat of your 1st, maybe a slight bump up if needed, but only like 100 mgs.

Your 3rd, similar. Only add more mgs or change compounds if needed.

Stop being a dipshit.

I agree with this. That was a lot of compounds. You can get a LOT from just test only. Once you run out of room with gains on test only add in some primo, mast, or EQ.

Also PCT, what is this PCT you speak of? Blast and cruise for life.

 

[gibz]

Do you feel like the net 8 lbs that you gained was good, solid, mostly lean muscle weight after the 3-4 lbs drop at the end?

Be honest, there's no shame if not, it's all learning experience. If it was, congrats, that's awesome!!!

So Test only worked well, so you decided to switch shit up? Common mistake, but still a mistake. Especially adding so many new drugs in one run. Knock that shit off!!!

So, after a 16 week cycle, your weight ended up basically exactly the same. Any big changes in body composition? Be honest, again, there's no shame.

How did you feel on Deca? Tren? Oh, and toss Dbol in the trash, it's a junk drug. There are so many better choices, Dbol should never enter your thoughts again.

Losing fat is all diet, and activity. There are things that will move the needle SLIGHTLY, but honestly, sticking to a solid sensible diet, staying active, training hard, a little cardio, you're good.

In general, I'd go with a 10% reduction in calories from your maintenance level to start. So if 3,000 is maintenence, drop to 2,700. Ride that out as long as you can, then drop another 10%. Do NOT start with a giant deficit, crash dieting is not the path to take.

Another thing, if your maintenance Cals are already pretty low, like say 2,500, then I'd opt for a mix of a smaller calorie reduction, paired with a small bump in cardio, whether it's adding an extra 10 minutes to your sessions, or adding 2,000 steps to your daily target.

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