Older age and gear

[Bro Bundy]

At 45 I can’t use deca anymore even at 200 mg it makes me feel heavy in the chest area

 

[Mutt]

Hi Buck. I'm OLD Buck.. lol
I can tell you with confidence. If you can get good Deca, you will definitely feel the benifets. But you just can't do that alone.
It's to expensive and it's mild to really feel any enhancement.
Your BP isn't bad, just watch your HCT and RBC, if it gets high, just donate a pint of blood. High HCG and RBC can get dangerous at our age. When it gets high, You'll notice your face staying red for long periods of time when your not exercising.
Also you'll start developing severe itching like you would get after a serious sun burn.
Donating blood and take a low dose aspirin will go a long way.
But back to the cycle.. if you can run 1 mg of deca and 250 of test you should be good to go

Hi Buck. I'm OLD Buck.. lol
I can tell you with confidence. If you can get good Deca, you will definitely feel the benifets. But you just can't do that alone.
It's to expensive and it's mild to really feel any enhancement.
Your BP isn't bad, just watch your HCT and RBC, if it gets high, just donate a pint of blood. High HCG and RBC can get dangerous at our age. When it gets high, You'll notice your face staying red for long periods of time when your not exercising.
Also you'll start developing severe itching like you would get after a serious sun burn.
Donating blood and take a low dose aspirin will go a long way.
But back to the cycle.. if you can run 1 mg of deca and 250 of test you should be good to go

(1 mg of deca and 250)
I need to clarify this.. 200 mg of deca and 250 of cyp to start. By week 6 if you don't feel it, add another 100 mg of cyp per week.
Less is better

 

[moleman]

@buck i ment to put 2iu of hgh.

 

[Mutt]

@buck i ment to put 2iu of hgh.

2 iu is very conservative.. I started using hgh 5 yrs ago and im 57. I found 3 iu daily to be my sweet spot. When I did cycle, I bumped it up to 4 iu at the start of the cycle and ran it 6 weeks after the cycle.
Then back down to 3 iu..

 

[moleman]

2 iu is very conservative.. I started using hgh 5 yrs ago and im 57. I found 3 iu daily to be my sweet spot. When I did cycle, I bumped it up to 4 iu at the start of the cycle and ran it 6 weeks after the cycle.
Then back down to 3 iu..

Ah okay. I'm on TRT low dose .5 e3.5d but will be upping that for a blast. 2iu hgh is where an at now but 3 might be an idea..
I've been hearing/reading allot on low dose Retatrutide and many benefits it has other then use for a fat loss.
I do not want to use to much gear but am giving it strong thought.

 

[Mutt]

Ah okay. I'm on TRT low dose .5 e3.5d but will be upping that for a blast. 2iu hgh is where an at now but 3 might be an idea..
I've been hearing/reading allot on low dose Retatrutide and many benefits it has other then use for a fat loss.
I do not want to use to much gear but am giving it strong thought.

It does... but you lose your natural hgh production as you age, if I'm not mistaken adding 2 IU's at age 45 is replenishing what the average male loses at that age. 3 IU will get you at age 25 production lvls

 

[Mutt]

Ah okay. I'm on TRT low dose .5 e3.5d but will be upping that for a blast. 2iu hgh is where an at now but 3 might be an idea..
I've been hearing/reading allot on low dose Retatrutide and many benefits it has other then use for a fat loss.
I do not want to use to much gear but am giving it strong thought.

Just curious.. what trt are you using?

 

[Mutt]

At 45 I can’t use deca anymore even at 200 mg it makes me feel heavy in the chest area

Wow.. I've never heard of that.. But then again 200 mg was the absolute maximum amount per wk, and that was only for 6 wks

 

[moleman]

Just curious.. what trt are you using?

Taro Testosterone cyp (script test)

 

[Mutt]

Taro Testosterone cyp (script test)

I'm currently on Jantenzo. Undecanoate pill form

 

[moleman]

I'm currently on Jantenzo. Undecanoate pill form

Oh, I'm not sure I'd like pill fourm. So.liver breaks that down?

 

[Mutt]

Oh, I'm not sure I'd like pill fourm. So.liver breaks that down?

It breaks down in the intestinal lymphatic system from what i was told, completely bypassing the liver.
So far I have no issues

 

[moleman]

It breaks down in the intestinal lymphatic system from what i was told, completely bypassing the liver.
So far I have no issues

Try and see if you can get the inject or patch.

 

[Mutt]

I was using a compound the pharmacy made for me for the past 2 yrs. The last 6 months felt like it was really inconsistent, so I asked my doc to switch me up.

 

[Mutt]

Try and see if you can get the inject or patch.

I'm trying to get back on cyp, he asked me to be his guinea pig. LOL

 

[moleman]

I'm trying to get back on cyp, he asked me to be his guinea pig. LOL

 

[Mutt]

I used to use the Watson 200 mg cyp

 

[buck]

Hi Buck. I'm OLD Buck.. lol
I can tell you with confidence. If you can get good Deca, you will definitely feel the benifets. But you just can't do that alone.
It's to expensive and it's mild to really feel any enhancement.
Your BP isn't bad, just watch your HCT and RBC, if it gets high, just donate a pint of blood. High HCG and RBC can get dangerous at our age. When it gets high, You'll notice your face staying red for long periods of time when your not exercising.
Also you'll start developing severe itching like you would get after a serious sun burn.
Donating blood and take a low dose aspirin will go a long way.
But back to the cycle.. if you can run 1 mg of deca and 250 of test you should be good to go

So how old are you? I am 64. Been doing cycles and Dr prescribed TRT for over 25 years.
I never posted my BP on this thread so i am not sure how you know if it is high or not.
I have good deca on hand used it many times, but do not like how i feel on it any more so i don't use it. Just test and primo these days.
High HCG can be dangerous?
My face will itch if i don't exercise?
And as a side note i have not really missed a workout since the 1980's. How about you?
Not sure where you get your knowledge from.

 

[Bro Bundy]

So how old are you? I am 64. Been doing cycles and Dr prescribed TRT for over 25 years.
I never posted my BP on this thread so i am not sure how you know if it is high or not.
I have good deca on hand used it many times, but do not like how i feel on it any more so i don't use it. Just test and primo these days.
High HCG can be dangerous?
My face will itch if i don't exercise?
And as a side note i have not really missed a workout since the 1980's. How about you?
Not sure where you get your knowledge from.

I feel like shit on deca now too.. I used to love the shit in my 30s now I feel weird and heavy on it

 

[buck]

I feel like shit on deca now too.. I used to love the shit in my 30s now I feel weird and heavy on it

Mentally i don't feel as good either. And nothing used to affect me that way either.