First off let me say I am asking for a good friend at the gym. I personally have never cycled, but I have many friends that do. Ironically enough I've been lurking forums for years now and I know a lot more than they do about this stuff. They only know what people at the gym have recommended to them, to me it seems the equivilent of jumping off a bridge if someone told you to. Lol. But let me get to the question. My buddy has this cycle planned out, he's all stoked his guy got tren in for the first time. Made me wanna do it myself but I know I shouldn't include tren in a first cycle. Or so I've read. But he has this cycle planned out which includes moderate dose tren and lower test (I think 600 and 500 respectively or somewhere in that range) and superdrol to kickstart. I'm sure he'd get his ass flamed if he posted the cycle on here and listed his cycle history, workout, and stats. But that's besides the point. He's dead set on this and he wants to add anavar at the end of it after he's finished with the superdrol. I told him two orals is a big no-no despite anavar being barely liver toxic, or not at all as I've read some places. That was his justification for running both of those orals, I'm just trying to prove a point that he shouldn't do it. I could be wrong here, but I don't believe I am. Any and all input is appreciated, especially personal experience with running a highly toxic oral (superdrol in this case) and anavar. Sorry that was so long and thanks in advance