Russian Ukraine War------>Political Shitshow

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Every government is corrupt to its core.
Since 2001, anyone who's POTUS has had a salary of $400k per year. Before that, when I was younger, they all got $200k since 1969. They also get free housing, the use of a swell airplane, and some other crap, but ..........

that's chump change for anyone who has "the right stuff" to get his ass elected/selected as the most powerful man on earth.

Used to wonder why they all did it when I was young, but I figured it out over the ensuing decades. Same theory applies to Governors, Senators, Congressmen, and probably all the way down to most small town Mayors and School Board members. I do think most highway workers and dogcatchers are just trying to earn an honest day's pay for an honest day's work, however :unsure:.
 

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For the first time, the U.S. is authorizing Ukraine to use long range missiles against Russia:


The weapons are expected to be used in response to North Korea's decision to send thousands of troops to Russia in support of Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, according to one of the sources.

Zelenskyy also spoke about Russia's massive drone and missile attack on Ukraine on Sunday, described by officials as one of the largest ever that targeted energy infrastructure and killed civilians.

That attack came as fears mount about Moscow's intentions to devastate Ukraine's power generation capacity ahead of the cold winter.

Could what happens over the next 60 days make Trump's ideas for ending the war harder to achieve?
 

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For the first time, the U.S. is authorizing Ukraine to use long range missiles against Russia:




Could what happens over the next 60 days make Trump's ideas for ending the war harder to achieve?
If Trump really were America first, he wouldn’t even speak to that puppet actor Zelensky and tell Ukraine, Russia, Israel and Palestine to go eat a dick and never acknowledge them again
 

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If Trump really were America first, he wouldn’t even speak to that puppet actor Zelensky and tell Ukraine, Russia, Israel and Palestine to go eat a dick and never acknowledge them again

That would be very irresponsible and is not realistic at all.
 
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There is no way Ukraine will win this war on the battlefield. They have done well on the defense. They have an advantage fighting defensively. To go offense they need more like a 3 to 1 advantage in man power, and that's not going to happen.

It boils down to how many more dead Ukraine can inflict on Russia and North Korea before they realize this. Lasting peace means no one is happy with the conditions but both sides can live with
 

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Irresponsible for a neocon. Yes I agree

No, irresponsible for the president of the United States.

Not being a neocon doesn't mean not speaking to foreign leaders or pretending that conflicts don't exist.

There is no way Ukraine will win this war on the battlefield. They have done well on the defense. They have an advantage fighting defensively. To go offense they need more like a 3 to 1 advantage in man power, and that's not going to happen.

It boils down to how many more dead Ukraine can inflict on Russia and North Korea before they realize this. Lasting peace means no one is happy with the conditions but both sides can live with

I agree with you 100%.

Ukraine is hoping for a settlement that is a pipe dream. Getting back Crimea is unrealistic, and Trump is not a bad person for pointing that out.
 

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Russia has apparently used an ICBM against Ukraine for the first time:


Russia launched an intercontinental ballistic missile at Ukraine from its southern Astrakhan region on Thursday morning, Kyiv's air force said.

It is the first time Russia has used such a powerful, long-range missile during its ongoing invasion of its neighbor, and comes after Ukraine reportedly struck targets within Russia with US and British missiles this week.

The Ukrainian military has not yet said what the missile targeted and whether it caused any damage.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has urged his fellow Ukrainians not to spread panic amid the threat of a major Russian air attack in response to Ukraine's actions, which came after Kyiv received permission to use the Western weapons from Washington and London.
 

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i generally think US policy remains 99% the same regardless of which party is in office.

that said, it strikes me as pretty effed up for biden to make a hugely consequential escalation on his way out the door. we’re treating the threat of nuclear war incredibly nonchalantly.
 

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i generally think US policy remains 99% the same regardless of which party is in office.

that said, it strikes me as pretty effed up for biden to make a hugely consequential escalation on his way out the door. we’re treating the threat of nuclear war incredibly nonchalantly.

Do you think Biden is escalating the situation on purpose? To make it impossible for Trump to "end the war in 24 hours" like he's always claimed he could do?


And FWIW, I never thought Trump can end the war as easily as he thinks.
 

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Do you think Biden is escalating the situation on purpose? To make it impossible for Trump to "end the war in 24 hours" like he's always claimed he could do?


And FWIW, I never thought Trump can end the war as easily as he thinks.

i don’t know why else he would do it now.

and true. i’m not even sure trump even wants to end the war based on his cabinet picks so far. i just fear the longer it goes on this way the chance of miscalculation (or even an accident) gets really likely.
 

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Last I saw biden was wondering off into the Amazon rainforest…. The lights are in but no one’s home
 

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Even the world leaders didn’t wanna take a pic with that old crusty fuck
 

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Some reports say Russia is using Yemeni soldiers on the front lines. These are possibly men who were tricked into fighting:


The paper said Yemen's Islamist Houthi militia is recruiting men for deployment in the Russian military and that it has already sent hundreds of fighters to Russia through a "shadowy trafficking operation."

Citing some of the men involved, the Financial Times said Yemeni individuals were promised salaried employment and citizenship in Russia. When they arrived in the country, the men were forced to join the Russian army and sent to the front lines in Ukraine.
 

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Used to wonder why they all did it when I was young, but I figured it out over the ensuing decades. Same theory applies to Governors, Senators, Congressmen, and probably all the way down to most small town Mayors and School Board members. I do think most highway workers and dogcatchers are just trying to earn an honest day's pay for an honest day's work, however :unsure:.
They who desire power, already have the money and definitely not doing it for that.
 

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Trump says that he has already talked to Putin about ending the war. But gives little details on any concrete plans to end it.


Donald Trump has revealed that he has already had a phone conversation - or more than one phone conversation - with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Trump spoke with a New York Post reporter on Friday whilst onboard Air Force One, saying of Putin “he wants to see people stop dying."

Trump added: "Every day people are dying. This war is so bad in Ukraine. I want to end this damn thing.”

The US president said he wouldn't reveal how many times he has spoken with Putin but added that they have a "good relationship."
 
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