SR 9009 on a bulk

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in reading through the weightloss section of the forum. it seems that only dnp burns fat. i dont think ill be going anywhere near that stuff. other than exercise, calorie deficit (though diet and muscle gain) is there anything else i could look at?
Cardarine. But bro why not try the diet and exercise approach first lol at least for the first two months it comes off fast and easy once you get into the stubborn and start stalling than add stuff. Fuck the drugs that’s the last part of the equation bro
 

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2,4-Dinitrophenol

I don't recommend it for anyone. Extremely dangerous if not used properly.

I only used it as an example of something that actually burns fat unlike anabolics or SARMs.
Ya I have no opinion on this stuff never ran it never will. One of my buddies ended up In the fuckin icu cus of this tho he dosent even compete he just wanted to take some Instagram pics or something lol fuckim dummy almost lost his life and he was like 20 healthy af. This is a very dangerous compound
 

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You can read above and get your answer but I'll just add on to the nope, certainly not, all you need is diet and exercise to lose fat.
 

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You can read above and get your answer but I'll just add on to the nope, certainly not, all you need is diet and exercise to lose fat.
Still not too good with this quoting stuff. What I was referring to in this post was the question of if I believe sarms burns fat directly
 

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Well, I'm going to ignore the shit show and get right to my thoughts.

The reason you're likely thinking about taking it is probably flawed logic. If the idea is that because in the rat studies there was a decrease in lipogenesis and you believe that will make your bulk more lean, you're probably drawing the wrong conclusions. Diet was a control. Obviously given the same amount of food, the rats given a drug that increases their caloric expenditure are going to gain less fat. They're eating the same but burning more calories.

The value in the context of a bulk would probably mostly be increased work capacity. The negative is that you're going to have to eat more to have the same caloric surplus.

Since it's not really what the drug is best suited for you're not likely to see a bunch of experience for you to draw from. You're going to have to be your own experiment.
 

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Sr9009 100% does but it's not a sarm, the only people who disagree that it does burn fat knows nothing about pharmacology
You keep saying this, so please explain to me HOW.

Say I eat 10,000 calories per day while taking SR. How will I not gain fat?
 

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Sr9009 100% does but it's not a sarm, the only people who disagree that it does burn fat knows nothing about pharmacology
Either post research data supporting your claims or stop spreading false statements.

Results on lab mice are not the same as humans.

Just because you read it on a SARMs site doesn't make it true.
 

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Either post research data or stop spreading false statements.

Just because you read it on a SARMs site doesn't make it true.
Or even explain HOW in your own words how it does what you say. I can tell you how it does not....Even if it increases your metabolism, you can out eat it's effects, just like you can DNP. So if your diet isn't in check, you will NOT get results just because you want them.
 

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Correct, unless you use gh, I'm not arguing about a fact, take good gh you can lose fat on a bulk regardless of what anyone says
@CJ275 once he said that it didn't matter what anyone else says because he is right, I gave up...
 
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Right now I’m running 50 ostarine 20 cardarine fuckin awesome u can run that stack as a cut to without shutting yourself down
How long did you run it for. I ran the same but slightly lower dose. 40 Ostarine 29 caradarine for two months and felt nothing. Wondering if I didn't take it long enough or dose high enough. Thanks
 
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You keep saying this, so please explain to me HOW.

Say I eat 10,000 calories per day while taking SR. How will I not gain fat?
On a caloric deficit you will, please show me where I've said otherwise lol
 
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@CJ275 once he said that it didn't matter what anyone else says because he is right, I gave up...
No you just can't read properly not once did I say you will burn fat on a calorie surplus, the only exception is gh, whether you want to admit it or not, how do you think all the pros and anyone who knows the science stay lean as fuck year round 🙄 I'm not saying anymore about this as I'm not arguing with people who know nothing about science/pharmacology and what gh primarily actually does which is burn fat put in simple terms
 

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No you just can't read properly not once did I say you will burn fat on a calorie surplus, the only exception is gh, whether you want to admit it or not, how do you think all the pros and anyone who knows the science stay lean as fuck year round 🙄 I'm not saying anymore about this as I'm not arguing with people who know nothing about science/pharmacology and what gh primarily actually does which is burn fat put in simple terms
From my understanding, GH does not burn fat. It does causes lipolysis if taken on an empty stomach, but all that does is release the free fatty acids into your bloodstream.

You still have to use them as fuel or they can simply be restored as bodyfat.
 
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No you just can't read properly not once did I say you will burn fat on a calorie surplus, the only exception is gh, whether you want to admit it or not, how do you think all the pros and anyone who knows the science stay lean as fuck year round 🙄 I'm not saying anymore about this as I'm not arguing with people who know nothing about science/pharmacology and what gh primarily actually does which is burn fat put in simple terms
You must have an abundant circle of supportive and intellectually stimulating friends.

J/k you're wrong and also insufferable.
 

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No you just can't read properly not once did I say you will burn fat on a calorie surplus, the only exception is gh, whether you want to admit it or not, how do you think all the pros and anyone who knows the science stay lean as fuck year round 🙄 I'm not saying anymore about this as I'm not arguing with people who know nothing about science/pharmacology and what gh primarily actually does which is burn fat put in simple terms
You literally don't have an argument because you have absolutely no fact-based proof.

I still offer you the opportunity to show me one single piece of research data on humans that proves what you say.

This will be the third time that I asked for research based proof of your claim.
This isn't an argument, it's a debate and that's how debates work.

I'm interested in your findings
 

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Why does everyone say “burns fat”?
Speeding up your metabolism and burning fat are entirely different. At least in my view.
My view is that it goes to the fat and specifically burns that as opposed to burning fat, carbs , and muscle.
When I prepare for a competition I wish that I had something that would just attack the fat cells however I need to be careful not to lose muscle.


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Why does everyone say “burns fat”?
Speeding up your metabolism and burning fat are entirely different. At least in my view.
My view is that it goes to the fat and specifically burns that as opposed to burning fat, carbs , and muscle.
When I prepare for a competition I wish that I had something that would just attack the fat cells however I need to be careful not to lose muscle.


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Can you imagine if you could just take a special supplement that only burned fat?

There wouldn't be a single overweight person on the planet because it would be that simple.

I challenge anyone who says that any supplement from anabolics to sarms to growth hormone or whatever they claim we'll just magically burn fat.

I have been doing this long enough that I feel like I would know if such a supplement existed and if it does, I'll take it right now.

This is basically the whole point of my discussion here with Oz. If he actually does any real research, he will find that this magical growth hormone that he speaks about doesn't burn fat.

Growth hormone does something specific that I'm waiting for him to research himself and be able to speak to so that we can have a legitimate discussion on its ability to aid in fat loss.

Oops, I gave a little bit of the answer here.
 

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