Test is a given. I should’ve mentioned it in the postWhere's the test?
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Glad I asked before immediately going chimp on an oral only cycle.Test is a given. I should’ve mentioned it in the post
I’m naturally a big guy. When I was on the winny and test I didn’t really tone down I got bigger. Im a regular at the gym and a athleteGlad I asked before immediately going chimp on an oral only cycle.
We need more info, what's your full experience.
What's your goals?
What's your current stats?
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Tone down? That’s called fat loss. You didn’t “tone down” because you weren’t in a deficitI’m naturally a big guy. When I was on the winny and test I didn’t really tone down I got bigger. Im a regular at the gym and a athlete
Im 6ft and about 225 im trying to get down to 205-210
I’d say, plus clen is absolutely awful for you.Seems a bit excessive running 4 drugs for a simple cut if you’re new to using PEDs.
What would you substitute?Seems a bit excessive running 4 drugs for a simple cut if you’re new to using PEDs.
It’s bad for your heart in just about any way that you could possibly imagine.Clen is awful? How so? I was doing some reading and I read opposite
If it’s just a case of losing 15-20lbs and trying to hold on to your muscle mass, as somebody who is new to PEDs and doesn’t have an IFBB pro level of muscle, a low dose of Test would be plenty. Save the extra anabolics for when you’re in a surplus so you can take advantage of them and Clen will be overkill and unnecessary. Pointless feeling like an anxious jittery mess all day to speed your fat loss up by a minuscule amount unless you’re very deep in to a cut and super lean.What would you substitute?
CardioWhat would you substitute?
Appreciate the feedbackIt’s bad for your heart in just about any way that you could possibly imagine.
Appreciate the feedbackCardio
Appreciate the feedbackIf it’s just a case of losing 15-20lbs and trying to hold on to your muscle mass, as somebody who is new to PEDs and doesn’t have an IFBB pro level of muscle, a low dose of Test would be plenty. Save the extra anabolics for when you’re in a surplus so you can take advantage of them and Clen will be overkill and unnecessary. Pointless feeling like an anxious jittery mess all day to speed your fat loss up by a minuscule amount unless you’re very deep in to a cut and super lean.
For what you’re aiming for, you could go from start to finish with simple calorie restriction and a bit of low/moderate intensity cardio sessions a week with little to no suffering. Maybe a tiny bit of Test to help retain strength/muscle. Pointless over complicating things with various drugs for such a simple goal.Appreciate the feedback
Can you recommend dosages and how long I should cycle the test ?For what you’re aiming for, you could go from start to finish with simple calorie restriction and a bit of low/moderate intensity cardio sessions a week with little to no suffering. Maybe a tiny bit of Test to help retain strength/muscle. Pointless over complicating things with various drugs for such a simple goal.