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Hi everyone

I have already introduced myself:
ugbodybuilding.com/threads/19053-My-introduction

...and I am eager to begin my first course / starters cycle.

Here is my stash:
100 á 10 mg oxandrobol pills
100 á 25 mg stanzolol pills
10 ml Testosteron (1 ml contains 50 mg (500 mg))
10 ml Primobolan (1 ml contains 100 mg (1000 mg))

4 x HCG for PCT

I have been advised to do a course of 10-12 weeks with 300-500 mg EW.
I have also been advised to mix it with Primobolan in between to boost it up.

A fuld PCT course after the 10-12 weeks with HCG treatment although I am not sure whether 1ml x 4 injcections are sufficient. The injections of 1 ml is EW for 4 weeks.

Any suggestions?
I have obiously not enough Testosteron and need at least 10-11 bottles of 10 ml (1 ml contains 50 mg (500 mg)) more.

What do you guys think?

Alternate cycle
Another has suggested me this course:
Week: 1-5 test e 250mg E7D
Week: 6-10 test e 350mg E5D
Week: 1-5 Primo 400mg E7D
Week: 6-10 Primo 600mg E5D
Week: 1-5 Anavar 60 mg ED (20 20 20) 8h between each pill.
Week: 7-10 Wins 60 mg ED (20 20 20) 8h between each pill.

FULL PCT

Please, give me some feedback. I really want to be sure to make my first cycle a success and with great dedication/diet/training.

I really appreciate everyone's time here.
 

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I'd stick with test for first cycle only. Also don't complicate things more than they have too. Pin twice a week and stick with the same dosage throughout the duration of the cycle. 500mg a week is a perfect cycle and the var at 60 a day is a pretty decent amount. No need to go crazy on all these different hormones on your first run.
 

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Herm hit on the head.
 

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Herm nailed it. What is your PCT protocol? PCT is as important as your cycle. I would also strongly reccomend you have everything needed for your cycle, PCT included, before you begin.
 
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Absolutely I agree its the work you put in after the cycle that's going to keep your gains plus giving your body a break only prepares you for the next run. So always make sure you have it mapped out before starting, so that way you know what days to do what things without guessing a good plan equals good gains.
 

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Am I the only one confused as to why the testosterone is only 50mg/ml? Test enanthate is usually 250-300mg/ml. Why would you need 10 more bottles?
 

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That cycle is a huge mess! Listen to Hermin.
 
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I'd stick with test for first cycle only. Also don't complicate things more than they have too. Pin twice a week and stick with the same dosage throughout the duration of the cycle. 500mg a week is a perfect cycle and the var at 60 a day is a pretty decent amount. No need to go crazy on all these different hormones on your first run.

I think you are very right and I will go with your suggestion.

I am posting a picture of what I have got.

The little blue bottle contains testosteron and it says "Test Forte" and 1 ml contains 50mg. I will post a better close-up of it tomorrow.

HCG-2500.jpg

Also notice that my PCT will consist of 4 shots of HCG.

Let me know if my PCT course is sufficient.
 

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Test is best for a first cycle.
You've already been told and have accepted the advice of Herm, good idea.
 
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Am I the only one confused as to why the testosterone is only 50mg/ml? Test enanthate is usually 250-300mg/ml. Why would you need 10 more bottles?

I took a better look on the bottle and it says Testosterone Propionate (1 ml contains 50mg) Ethyl Oleate.
 

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Well that changes things a little. Prop is usable but enanthate would be better for a first cycle. Also, please tell me you have more pins than what's in the pic...
 
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Well that changes things a little. Prop is usable but enanthate would be better for a first cycle. Also, please tell me you have more pins than what's in the pic...

Hmmm then ethanate it is that I need. If I was to use Prop, WHO much a week would the dosage be?

Yes, I have plenty of pins and everything. I just took a photo of one of each syringes and needles and stuff.
 

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Hmmm then ethanate it is that I need. If I was to use Prop, WHO much a week would the dosage be?

Yes, I have plenty of pins and everything. I just took a photo of one of each syringes and needles and stuff.

I am not as familiar with Test Prop, but I think you have to pin every day or every other day. That is why it is 50mg/ml. Not ideal for first cycle to be pinning that often.
 

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Well that changes things a little. Prop is usable but enanthate would be better for a first cycle. Also, please tell me you have more pins than what's in the pic...

Can't you just rinse off the needle and use it again if it is just for personal use?
 

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Prop is everyother day pinning. Half life is shorter than e or c. This changes everything.
 

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Can't you just rinse off the needle and use it again if it is just for personal use?

They cost a few cents each. It's not worth the risk. Plus, needles dull very quickly. Your be hammering the ****er in by week 5.
 

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Did I mis read that or do you only have 1 - 10 ml bottle of testosterone?
Cause 10 ml of 50mg/ml prop would only last a week.
 

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Definitely don't re use pins there cheap enough they and dull quick. Check out allegro medical I would even swap the needle to a fresh one after drawing the oil, before pinning. I think most guys do that also
 

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Sh*t, I wasn't serious about the multi-use needle. Please don't ever do this guys. I recommend using a blunt needle to draw and then switching to your injection needle, 23g 1-1.5" for IM injections. Then throw them in a sharps bin.
 

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