test + tren cycle dosage help ?

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Hello, I will use tren enanthate and test enanthate and it is not my first tren cycle but I have a lot of confusion. Some say keep testosterone higher than tren dosage, some say keep testosterone lower than tren dosage. My goal is to gain muscle mass and I also want to lose fat thanks to the tren. Which do you recommend, high test low tren or low test high tren?

I had done 400 tren 500 test before and the side effects were many, but I put on very good mass. Now I want 400 tren again, I'm thinking of 250 test, will there be a problem in putting mass in case I dropped the test?
Also, my height is 202 cm and my weight is 105 kg. I am 30 years old. My sports history is 14 years.

I would be very happy if you express your opinions.
 

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Doses are about experience. With tren 400 mg of E is great with not to many sides imo
 

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I wasn’t expecting miracles but I’m happy with results of 300mg test cyp, 200 mg mast E and 75 mg Tren A. Been on it for 9 weeks and plan on running it the rest of the summer. Pulled blood work on week 7 and no caution flags. Been on a cut the entire time, still gaining strength
 

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I wasn’t expecting miracles but I’m happy with results of 300mg test cyp, 200 mg mast E and 75 mg Tren A. Been on it for 9 weeks and plan on running it the rest of the summer. Pulled blood work on week 7 and no caution flags. Been on a cut the entire time, still gaining strength
It’s a good cycle
 
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I wasn’t expecting miracles but I’m happy with results of 300mg test cyp, 200 mg mast E and 75 mg Tren A. Been on it for 9 weeks and plan on running it the rest of the summer. Pulled blood work on week 7 and no caution flags. Been on a cut the entire time, still gaining strength
What values are you looking at from blood tests? Which ones are important for such a cure, so that I can understand whether the cure continues or not?
 

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the only way to know for sure is to try out - so , go ahead. get that learning exp.
 

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My goal is to gain muscle mass and I also want to lose fat thanks to the tren. Which do you recommend...

This is the common mistake people make. Pick one or the other, don't chase both goals at the same time, because you won't achieve either if you do.

Which is more important to you right now, adding muscle or dropping bodyfat? What is your body composition right now, are you lean or a little chubby?
 

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Tren will not help you drop body fat. That's the first error in your thinking. It will help you keep more muscle when you cut fat, it will help you grow muscle when you gain, but tren doesn't cut fat. "the side effects were many" wasn't because of your test/tren ratio, it was because 400 mg tren. Run your test at 400-500/wk, if it's tren e run that at 200/wk. If you can't gain in that you need to reevaluate diet and training. 200 tren is also more than enough to maintain mass while cutting.
 

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Were the issues from the previous cycle caused by the T or the tren. Tren would be my guess. I made good progress when using less tren the you have, in the past.
 

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5/4/3 is my jam , 5 test 4 mast 3 tren mmmmm anger
 
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Tren will not help you drop body fat. That's the first error in your thinking. It will help you keep more muscle when you cut fat, it will help you grow muscle when you gain, but tren doesn't cut fat. "the side effects were many" wasn't because of your test/tren ratio, it was because 400 mg tren. Run your test at 400-500/wk, if it's tren e run that at 200/wk. If you can't gain in that you need to reevaluate diet and training. 200 tren is also more than enough to maintain mass while cutting.
Tren cycle most definitely helps to loose fat quickly. Bro know from experience. Myself and many around me. As everyone knows if you go hard in the gym, dial in a diet high protein, just enough carbs to get by in energy, and keep the fat low and good. Now you run Tren A Test P ,Anavar last 8 weeks. Run GW501516 the whole cycle. To each his own mgs if Tren& test. We are all diff. Test is being run as a foundation for the cycle. The real catalyst is the Tren. Go up as high as you can deal with sides. Now 5 about the 4-5 week is where you get in the zone and just go ham. The amount of lean muscle you put on serves as an extra element of cutting fat since we all know the more muscle the more cal you burn, the ge501516 allows to combat exhaustion due to tren so you can dial in cardio. Once you hit final 8 weeks go heavy on multi muscle training. Go hard on bench, military press, row, and so forth. Now go 15-20 reps on dumbbell isolated exercises. Hit stair machine 3 times a week. Walk every morn 1-2 hour doing intermittent push ups as you walk. This is type of training I did and I transformed my physique a few times in my life. Tren the juice that was the main ingredient. I'd put on an extreme amount of mass then high reps help burn calories extremely well. Both types of training keeps your muscle fibers getting both worlds. I always put mind in muscle and with perfect form explode, then get those neg's esp. at the end sets I'm making my muscles fuck whole body start shaking. Shock your damn system. Should go harder than u have ever went with tren in you. Take advantage of the advantage your taking!
 

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Tren cycle most definitely helps to loose fat quickly. Bro know from experience. Myself and many around me. As everyone knows if you go hard in the gym, dial in a diet high protein, just enough carbs to get by in energy, and keep the fat low and good. Now you run Tren A Test P ,Anavar last 8 weeks. Run GW501516 the whole cycle. To each his own mgs if Tren& test. We are all diff. Test is being run as a foundation for the cycle. The real catalyst is the Tren. Go up as high as you can deal with sides. Now 5 about the 4-5 week is where you get in the zone and just go ham. The amount of lean muscle you put on serves as an extra element of cutting fat since we all know the more muscle the more cal you burn, the ge501516 allows to combat exhaustion due to tren so you can dial in cardio. Once you hit final 8 weeks go heavy on multi muscle training. Go hard on bench, military press, row, and so forth. Now go 15-20 reps on dumbbell isolated exercises. Hit stair machine 3 times a week. Walk every morn 1-2 hour doing intermittent push ups as you walk. This is type of training I did and I transformed my physique a few times in my life. Tren the juice that was the main ingredient. I'd put on an extreme amount of mass then high reps help burn calories extremely well. Both types of training keeps your muscle fibers getting both worlds. I always put mind in muscle and with perfect form explode, then get those neg's esp. at the end sets I'm making my muscles fuck whole body start shaking. Shock your damn system. Should go harder than u have ever went with tren in you. Take advantage of the advantage your taking!
What fucking moron. On a scale of one to Willie Nelson ,, how fucking stoned are you ?
 

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Tren cycle most definitely helps to loose fat quickly. Bro know from experience. Myself and many around me. As everyone knows if you go hard in the gym, dial in a diet high protein, just enough carbs to get by in energy, and keep the fat low and good. Now you run Tren A Test P ,Anavar last 8 weeks. Run GW501516 the whole cycle. To each his own mgs if Tren& test. We are all diff. Test is being run as a foundation for the cycle. The real catalyst is the Tren. Go up as high as you can deal with sides. Now 5 about the 4-5 week is where you get in the zone and just go ham. The amount of lean muscle you put on serves as an extra element of cutting fat since we all know the more muscle the more cal you burn, the ge501516 allows to combat exhaustion due to tren so you can dial in cardio. Once you hit final 8 weeks go heavy on multi muscle training. Go hard on bench, military press, row, and so forth. Now go 15-20 reps on dumbbell isolated exercises. Hit stair machine 3 times a week. Walk every morn 1-2 hour doing intermittent push ups as you walk. This is type of training I did and I transformed my physique a few times in my life. Tren the juice that was the main ingredient. I'd put on an extreme amount of mass then high reps help burn calories extremely well. Both types of training keeps your muscle fibers getting both worlds. I always put mind in muscle and with perfect form explode, then get those neg's esp. at the end sets I'm making my muscles fuck whole body start shaking. Shock your damn system. Should go harder than u have ever went with tren in you. Take advantage of the advantage your taking!
You clearly are unaware of who you are quoting. Ill leave it at that.
 

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Just so people don't keep spewing this horse shit , ill try to type slow so this fool can understand.

Trenbolone slightly ,, slightly see that word , it means just a little bit ,, raises your metabolism , that burns slightly more calories it is a minimal amount ...

Most guys use it on a cut or while prepping hence its SLIGHT boost to your metabolism combined with the added cardio and reduction in calories make it seem like it burns fat off you ,,, oh its a miracle ... no no its not.

It is merely one piece of a complicated one color puzzle like the purple dread .. (whats the purple dread ?... google mother fucker do you speak it ?)
 

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Tren influences fat burning.

There are only two steroids that bind to the receptors in fat cells, tren is one of them.
 
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