TestC/NPP mg/mg split dose Q&A

[MxxC82]

So I recently, two weeks ago kicked off my TestC/NPP run for the next few months (12-16wks).

MG/MG 200test/240npp, test on wed morning and npp m/w/f morning.. Starting Monday I plan to go full 300mg/wk with the npp as I haven’t noticed anything negative thus far, maybe too early to tell at such a conservative dose. I kicked up my test to 200, but going up to 250 next pin as well.

My question is mg for mg, I’ve heard and read up some on not running the test dose higher than the npp, some of what have read was convoluted and wasn’t really much straight forward reasoning, so I want to bring it up here to see what those that have ran this can attest to or just good advice in general.

I would like to bump the test up to around 300-400/wk and clearly would have to split the dose being so much oil in one pin, keep the npp at 100mg 3x/wk. Thoughts on the mg vs mg and the splitting of the testC?

My previous test only cycles I ran E and split for obvious reasons, I’ve only used C for TRT. Ran tren about 6 years ago (short lived due to crazy sides), first time on NPP.

 

[GreatGunz]

I would have split your test dose .6 Tuesday.6 Fridays that’s 1.2 ml of test to 240 mg
Run ur npp the. Way you have it.
You should grow on 240mg test/300 mg npp decently.(plenty)

 

[CJ]

Splitting you doses is fine, it could potentially be better, as you have less peaks and valleys, which should lead to less unwanted side effects. And since you're using a supraphysiological amount, there's no need to worry if your peaks are high enough to elicit the wanted response.

When I combine those two drugs, I inject both every other day. I'd ideally like to do daily injections, but that frequently is kind of annoying.

 

[MxxC82]

I would have split your test dose .6 Tuesday.6 Fridays that’s 1.2 ml of test to 240 mg
Run ur npp the. Way you have it.
You should grow on 240mg test/300 mg npp decently.(plenty)

I was thinking so, 300/400 test would be a little overkill (stacked). I don’t see why I couldn’t go ahead and start next Tuesday with the test split, that would be five days my previous dose has had to taper down. I’m pretty sure I will start feeling more peppy on the 240mg test, it would be 100mg more than my current trt dose

 

[MxxC82]

Splitting you doses is fine, it could potentially be better, as you have less peaks and valleys, which should lead to less unwanted side effects. And since you're using a supraphysiological amount, there's no need to worry if your peaks are high enough to illicit the wanted response.

When I combine those two drugs, I inject both every other day. I'd ideally like to do daily injections, but that frequently is kind of annoying.

I have noticed that just going up slightly on my weekly test dose that by day 5 I’m feeling sluggish and irritable, that was my other reasoning behind the split, not just the amount of injectable oil in one pin. Even still, I will be pinning something every day for 5 days with nothing on sat/sun, hell just 3 times a week is annoying right now, but I kinda like it at the same time. I’m sick in the head I know

 

[CJ]

I have noticed that just going up slightly on my weekly test dose that by day 5 I’m feeling sluggish and irritable, that was my other reasoning behind the split, not just the amount of injectable oil in one pin. Even still, I will be pinning something every day for 5 days with nothing on sat/sun, hell just 3 times a week is annoying right now, but I kinda like it at the same time. I’m sick in the head I know

MWF is fine

 

[MxxC82]

MWF is fine

I got a few days to consider the split or not, I know the ole cheeks are gonna regret it…BUT, I’ve been pinning my quads only on my TRT schedule until I started the NPP, then I was rotating my delts and glutes in to the mix.

I will say this too, I don’t know wtf, but pinning delts with the npp has been sore as shit the day after and lasting for a few days, I don’t have that issue with the test and I don’t believe the gear is bunk because I trust the source and he said he has had no issues and I can attest that he had good results with it. May just be me

 

[GreatGunz]

I was thinking so, 300/400 test would be a little overkill (stacked). I don’t see why I couldn’t go ahead and start next Tuesday with the test split, that would be five days my previous dose has had to taper down. I’m pretty sure I will start feeling more peppy on the 240mg test, it would be 100mg more than my current trt dose

People get excited and throw bro science at using more it’s better right!?
Wrong this is a long game not short.
240 mg of test
300 mg npp
540 mg of injectables .

If you can’t grow QUALITY muscle on that you’re fucking something up.

As an example your TRT dose is enough for recovery and helping build muscle.
Low and slow

 

[GreatGunz]

MWF is fine

Exactly

 

[MxxC82]

People get excited and throw bro science at using more it’s better right!?
Wrong this is a long game not short.
240 mg of test
300 mg npp
540 mg of injectables .

If you can’t grow QUALITY muscle on that you’re fucking something up.

I know there are a lot of dudes out there that think that way and you can’t tell them any different, they look at it individually and don’t take in account of totality, and royally fuck themselves up, I’ve seen it first hand at the gym I’ve been a member at for 20 years.

Quality>quality all day!

 

[GreatGunz]

I know there are a lot of dudes out there that think that way and you can’t tell them any different, they look at it individually and don’t take in account of totality, and royally fuck themselves up, I’ve seen it first hand at the gym I’ve been a member at for 20 years.

Quality>quality all day!

Especially low and slow for us older guys

 

[MxxC82]

I’m not 100% sure yet, but I think I’m gonna drop the NPP, I’m gonna give it one more week (bad part is I was gonna top it off at 300/wk starting next week…)

I noticed this past week I’ve had pretty bad continuous headaches mainly on the left side, and a pain in the lower back left side of my head, and on any given exercise when I max out on weight I get tremendous pressure in my head that’s is hard to describe, but it’s uncomfortable as hell to the point Wednesday and Friday at the gym when it happened I felt like I was going to pass out.. nothing has changed except increasing my test slightly and adding in the NPP..

I will say that for the two weeks prior leading up to the introduction of NPP I was taking an anti inflammatory for my lower back along with a low dose relaxer and low dose of norco for the pain and tension I had from bulging discs, I’ve never had an issue taking any of those prescriptions in the past so I can almost with confidence rule those out. And I have never had issues taking test on cruise or prior blasts.

Anyone here that has taken NPP in the past experienced anything like I have described?

Also, I highly doubt my pre-workout has anything to do with it either. I’ve worked with heavier weights in training in the past and I’m close to all of them again looking back at my prior notes, form is good on all and no injuries..

Just trying to rule things out and pin point if it’s the introduction of new gear or maybe something concerning I should go get looked at, because if it’s the gear I’ll drop that shit and keep my test mg’s where they are at for two weeks and run those numbers up if the issue subsides. Two weeks should be ample time for the NPP to work its way out of seeing as if I have up to the point taken less that 500mg total of it in two weeks?

Sorry for this long shit of a book post!

 

[Gadawg]

What is your blood pressure?

 

[MxxC82]

What is your blood pressure?

To be completely honest I have not checked my BP in about 9 days, that is of my own ignorance though. I will however go first thing in the morning to check it and check it again mid day. As a matter of fact, I’m gonna pick up a monitor tomorrow also. I would not say I have neglected it, only because it’s been pretty spot on every doctor visit I have had in the last 4 1/2 months, and I’ve had damn near one visit a week with different ortho docs, TRT doc and my GP. No excuse on my end to not be checking daily myself…

 

[CJ]

What is your blood pressure?

I was thinking similar. The pre workout sticks out to me as a potential concern, especially if it's a high stimulant one.

 

[Yano]

Pre-workout = cup of strong coffee and a couple of chocolate chip cookies or a pop tart

 

[MxxC82]

I was thinking similar. The pre workout sticks out to me as a potential concern, especially if it's a high stimulant one.

I use two different ones,
APS Mesomorph (off days)
C4 Original (after work)

The only reason I ruled those out, I have been using them weeks prior to starting the NPP with no issues, outside of the mesomorph having more stimulant and ingredients and keeping me energized hours after training (why I use it on days I don’t work), but then again who knows, they very well could be a player. I half scooped the C4 Friday and did not taking anything yesterday.

I’ll be on my way to the gym in a couple of hours and plan to check my BP before I go, and I’ll leave the pre workout alone for the next several days also just to see if it could potentially be a player as well.

 

[Yano]

I use two different ones,
APS Mesomorph (off days)
C4 Original (after work)

The only reason I ruled those out, I have been using them weeks prior to starting the NPP with no issues, outside of the mesomorph having more stimulant and ingredients and keeping me energized hours after training (why I use it on days I don’t work), but then again who knows, they very well could be a player. I half scooped the C4 Friday and did not taking anything yesterday.

I’ll be on my way to the gym in a couple of hours and plan to check my BP before I go, and I’ll leave the pre workout alone for the next several days also just to see if it could potentially be a player as well.

I'm old , I never used all kinds of that stuff. To me preworkout shit was made for 2 kinds of people , those that hate the gym and can't get fired up to work out and folks that work long hours and are dedicated and need a boost of energy more than a cup of coffee will give them at the hour of day or night they have available to get in said work out.

Do you really need all that jazz or is it just cus some meathead on youtubez said you need it ?

 

[GreatGunz]

To be completely honest I have not checked my BP in about 9 days, that is of my own ignorance though. I will however go first thing in the morning to check it and check it again mid day. As a matter of fact, I’m gonna pick up a monitor tomorrow also. I would not say I have neglected it, only because it’s been pretty spot on every doctor visit I have had in the last 4 1/2 months, and I’ve had damn near one visit a week with different ortho docs, TRT doc and my GP. No excuse on my end to not be checking daily myself…

Bro!!!

No excuses do it… if not leave gear alone

 

[MxxC82]

folks that work long hours and are dedicated and need a boost of energy more than a cup of coffee

Do you really need all that jazz or is it just cus some meathead on youtubez said you need it ?

Well to answer that question, during the work week yes, my off days not really. I get up at 4am for work, clock in at 5:45am and leave at 4:30pm, go straight to the gym afterwards, I’m pretty lifeless some days after my shift. Honestly I don’t care for pre workouts either and I didn’t start taking them again until about 3 months ago, but I need the boost some days and I don’t drink coffee or sodas